DISQUS

bored now · 1 year ago

honestly, running for president is all-time consuming. if he's picking up the phone, he better be calling contributors or people who can swing thousands of votes. and votes in illinois don't count. he's going to carry this state.

one of the most frustrating elements of existance in illinois for those of us who weren't born here or never aspired to come here is the absolutely parochial nature of illinois politics. so while i certainly hope the belief that illinois is all that matters continues for rich's sake (well, his pocketbook), it's extremely silly from a national perspective. this state is so screwed up that barack would have to do a lot more than pick up the phone for a few seconds to straighten anything out. a total loser of an idea from my perspective...

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===a total loser of an idea from my perspective…===

He's still our US Senator, isn't he?

downhereforyears · 1 year ago

He'll never get involved! Nobody cares about Illinois' corruption outside of Illinois and he's already got Illinois locked up. No upside.

IDOT Guy · 1 year ago

Sorry Rich, I don't think he will do it....

The Doc · 1 year ago

Now that he's been called out, the losing proposition is the status quo. This is not rocket science. Sure, it's only a symbolic gesture, but you better believe the GOP ticket will shove his idleness down his throat - as they should.

BandCamp · 1 year ago

downhereforyears- That is the most interesting dose of reality I've heard today. Because it is so true.

bored now · 1 year ago

yes, rich, he is. but dick durbin is unusual (for u.s. senators) to stay so involved in state politics. and traditional dictates that senators running for president basically stay away from this kind of thing. this idea is more appropriate if he loses. right now, he's a president-in-waiting (just as mccain is)...

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

IDOT Guy, and others, I agree that Obama probably won't ever respond, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try. Change ain't easy.

BandCamp · 1 year ago

===but you better believe the GOP ticket will shove his idleness down his throat - as they should.===

No, Illinois newspapers/bloggers will shove it down his throat. Last I checked, it isn't his responsibility to referee all the goofiness in Springfield.

Carry on, Barack, with your regularly scheduled program.

BehindTheScenes · 1 year ago

Yeah, he is our Senator. And he's been drawing the check all those months he's been on the campaign trail.

John McCain is a Senator, too (ditto Biden - and Palin is a Governor). He just doesn't happen to be MY Senator. Let the people in AZ, DE, AK complain if they wish.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===Last I checked, it isn’t his responsibility to referee all the goofiness in Springfield.===

He doesn't have to referee "all the goofiness." Just this.

Speaking At Will · 1 year ago

I have to say that I think that this is a great idea! However I think the only thing that would facilitate a call on Baracks part would be overwhelming response by the people of Illinois.

Call Baracks Senate office and let them in a polite fashion that Barack should pick up the phone and call President Jones and urge him to act!

I just did it, and it cant hurt anything. Furthermore, I bet if it were some of the naysayers jobs on the line in DNR and other agencies you would be willing to give anything a chance.

BandCamp · 1 year ago

Don't get me wrong, I agree it would be nice for him to get involved. And if he were not running for President, I believe there is a chance he would...but ask yourself, if you were in his position, and considering the damage it could cause to your campaign, would you get involved?

It just opens up Pandora's box for him to even make a phone call.

ArchPundit · 1 year ago

It's pretty costless to Barack and he should do it. It's not going to take much to get Emil to move on it if it comes from Obama.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===if you were in his position, and considering the damage it could cause to your campaign, would you get involved?===

His campaign tactics are not our problem.

VanillaMan · 1 year ago

Those of us who voted for Obama expected him to pick up that phone when it rang regarding Cook County corruption. Or Chicago corruption. Or when we called regarding Illinois corruption.

We have been waiting for Obama to do something to buck the status quo in Illinois. What does Obama think about Jones' disinterest in getting any work done until after November - when Jones' son is in office? Obama of all people knows Jones. What gives?

He won't return that call!

The Doc · 1 year ago

BandCamp, considering the degree to which the McCain ticket has recently (and successfully) trumpeted their reform credentials and agenda, I think it's reasonable to conclude that they'll leverage this against Obama. The mudslinging only intensifies as we get closer to November, and failure to acknowledge that the national press will run with this item strikes me as a bit naive.

Issuing a short but pointed statement doesn't qualify as "refereeing". He's a current and former product of IL government, and his constituents, both current and prospective, have a right to know his opinion regarding this matter.

anon36 · 1 year ago

This was not a situation with Obama, but with Durbin.
Prior to the SFY08 budget finally being 'resolved' I wrote to Durbin, imploring him to get involved with HIS state and try to knock some sense in to the little boys playing games back home. Several months later he replied to me. (I did appreciate the fact that he responded.) He (his staff) told me about all the difficulties in the FEDERAL budget process. There was nothing in my letter that should have misled him to believe that was my topic.
It is as if both of them forget who they are representing on the federal level. We are suffering in THEIR state on many levels and they have lost sight of who voted them in. Both Durbin & Obama need to get involved in the silliness we call politics and take a stand. I'll take off my Pollyanna hat now and step back in to reality!

Downstate weed chewing hick · 1 year ago

He should stick to something easier than solving political problems in Illinois. Say, peace in the Middle East.

Independent · 1 year ago

Obama is probably huddling with Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett, performing an intricate political calculus about what, if anything, to say and when to say it regarding ethics reform. This is a time when Obama needs to lose the carefully parsed advisor-speak and intervene on behalf of Illinoisans he represents.

What is the downside for Obama if he intervenes with Jones? Outside of temporarily ruffling a couple feathers there are no negatives. By intervening he could blunt the accurate criticism from McCain and Palin about his reformer record in Illinois, and do Illinoisans a service.

Ted · 1 year ago

If Blago can enlist the support of former Congressmen to promote a bipartisan approach to the capital bill, why can't a US Senator weigh in with his own party to promote ending the bickering and to come together to pass much needed ethics reform? I suspect a call would be made if the issue was stem cell research or raising the minimum wage or universal health care. I also suspect that he and his campaign concluded long ago that they dont want his name in the same sentence as "ethics in Illinois government." Thus, the stiff arm.
Rich, you are correct though in suggesting that there are important times which demand that an elected public servant start thinks and acting like a public servant and not a candidate. While we concede a certain selfishness to office holders for wanting to hold office or even secure higher office, we still do expect them to do some public service every now and then.
Then again, maybe we assume too much, maybe he could care less about addressing political corruption in Illinois.

A Citizen · 1 year ago

Sarah Palin calls her state's governor's office at least daily - it is just inexcusable that Obama will not.

wordslinger · 1 year ago

Actually, this could be his Sister Soulja moment. A public smackdown of Emil, Rod, Todd, Daley, the whole kit and kaboodle. Show some real anger, flex some muscle.

I like it. It would change the subject. And what are they going to do about it?

Zeke · 1 year ago

Obama interjecting himself into the statehouse battles only offers an opportunity to sully himself with state politics. How is it a bad move for Blago to praise Palin and yet a good idea for Obama to involve himself with Sen. Nepotism Jones and Gov Press Release? Illinois has the politicians it deserves and we should leave the Democratic Presidential candidate out of this mess.

Budget Watcher · 1 year ago

===one of the most frustrating elements of existance in illinois for those of us who weren’t born here or never aspired to come here is the absolutely parochial nature of illinois politics.===

I may be wrong, but there seemed to be a hint of condescension in those words. Apparently it's not easy being BN. Hopefully Senator BO will prevail in November, thus hastening the end of your exile to Illinois. Existence in Illinois...that's a heavy cross to bear for the enlightened.

Captain Flume · 1 year ago

If the Bammer were to make such a call, it might open the sores of Rezko, his overstatement of his involvement in the expansion of healthcare, and other issues that seem less than reformer-like. That said, the national press is as thick-headed about Illinois political issues as the Trib or Sun-Times are about what happens in Moline. Why should the Bammer care about stateworkers losing their jobs, or state ethics bills? He left the building.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===Why should the Bammer care about stateworkers losing their jobs, or state ethics bills?===

Because he lives here?

Captain Flume · 1 year ago

== Because he lives here? ==

THAT is a good question!

Mr. Cub · 1 year ago

Hey, he's not a reformer. Remember, this is the guy who gave us the Strogers over Forrest Claypool. If he won't stick up for good government in Cook Conuty and Illinois ... what amkes us think he can clean up Washington? It's a fool's folly.

Amy · 1 year ago

wow, I thought he's been telling us how much he did to fix things here in Illlinois. turns out it's only situational
heroic behavior.

wordslinger · 1 year ago

Didn't Meeks say last week there's no point in pouring more money into CPS until there's management change?

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===Remember, this is the guy who gave us the Strogers over Forrest Claypool.===

I'm so sick of this myth.

As we saw a kabillion times during Hillary Clinton's campaign, endorsements by popular African-American politicians of white candidates over qualified, viable black candidates rarely sway many African-American votes.

Stop the myths.

Bubs · 1 year ago

He is trying to get the general public to forget that he is from Illinois! (State Motto: Will the Defendant Please Rise?)

It won't work. While Hill the Thrill hit on it, he has largely skated on this issue with the Republican Mud Machine until now.

Over the next 45 days, expect to hear a lot more about the Chicago Machine, the Springfield Meltdown, and Obama's "record" on taking the risk of standing up to entrenched interests on his side of the street for the good of the people . . . and the lack thereof.

He talks the talk, but ain't never walked the walk.

You Go Boy · 1 year ago

Rich you are absolutely right on this....I've tried to keep an open mind about B.O., but when you see Jones as his "godfather", his repeated dodges of tough issues, his calculation/ambition meter at full tilt, I just can't see voting for him. He COULD help this state, but he chooses to, as usual, seek his own benefit first and forement.

South Side Mike · 1 year ago

Will Obama touch it? Not on his life. He won't publicly call Emil because the press will immediately examine his relationship to his "godfather" in close detail. As we all know, no one in Illinois wants their connections to the Republican/Democratic machines/Combine to get too much press, especially one campaigning on a national "reform" ticket. (Strike that, Obama's never campaigned on reform, only "change." Call it cynicism from living in Illinois, but that's a subtle but telling distinction.)

Does he have an obligation to? Yes. Whether or not Obama likes it, he is still the elected public servant of Illinois. If he doesn't want that responsibility, he can always pull a Bob Dole in 1996 and resign from the Senate. If Obama loses the election, how will he explain his negligence to the state? Should he not sieze the easy opportunity to "buck his party" now, why shouldn't people consider him just another politician?

I am not saying that Durbin or Obama should be co-governors with Blago. But they should be willing to at least lend their opinion and support on basic issues like ethics reform without first consulting with campaign managers and spin doctors. And yes, if Arizona's government is as dysfunctional as Illinois' government, I would hope that McCain has weighed in on a few of those issues, too.

Speaking At Will · 1 year ago

(State Motto: Will the Defendant Please Rise?)


LOL!

Black Ivy · 1 year ago

This is non-news. Obama ceased serving as U.S. Senator the day after we elected him. He has been running for President ever since.

Provide and opinion on the embattled ethics reform legislation? Absolutely not! That would require leadership in putting the state before Obama's own political ambitions. Not gonna happen...

Clown College Observer · 1 year ago

===He’s still our US Senator, isn’t he?===

Only because he happened to be elected in the state I reside in. He in no way represents me.

Vote Quimby! · 1 year ago

Disappointed in the lack of leadership...change begins at HOME!

A Citizen · 1 year ago

Every Sunday the newspaper reports on some of the votes in the US Senate. Durbin usually votes other than what I would prefer and Obama is "Not Present". I guess I should be pleased at least that he didn't rubber stamp Durbin? He is useless to Illinois as a senator - he simply doesn't report for duty and I find that unacceptable, presidential candidate or not.

Loop Lady · 1 year ago

I agree with Canary and Radogno...

Barack has nothing to lose by calling Jones and inviting him to not be an obstructionist at this point in his career...If Jones doesn't comply, at least he can say he tried...Barack has been muc more interested in the last several years in his ascension to political prominence than he was in his salad days as a community organizer...that was a very long time ago koolaid drinkers...

BigDog · 1 year ago

"A public smackdown of Emil, Rod, Todd, Daley, the whole kit and kaboodle. "

As someone solidly in the McCain camp, this might be the one thing Obama could do that would make me think twice...

Clown College Observer · 1 year ago

===#

This is non-news. Obama ceased serving as U.S. Senator the day after we elected him. He has been running for President ever since.

Provide and opinion on the embattled ethics reform legislation? Absolutely not! That would require leadership in putting the state before Obama’s own political ambitions. Not gonna happen…===

Agreed. Obama is every bit the backbencher that Blagojevich was. I can't imagine a scenario that he would involve himself in this type of dispute since it doesn't gain him anything. Obama already assumes he will carry Illinois by a significant margin and, much like not spending money advertising here, he won't involve himself in something that won't help his election.

For Obama, it is ALL about the campaign. If he actually manages to keep his campaign afloat for the next 55 days and get elected, he will start the campaign for re-election 10 minutes after he is sworn in. Other than Blagojevich, I can't think of a more shallow and self-involved politician in Illinois today.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===Obama is every bit the backbencher that Blagojevich was===

Hardly. He's got a record in the Senate. Rod never did compile one.

Clown College Observer · 1 year ago

===Every Sunday the newspaper reports on some of the votes in the US Senate. Durbin usually votes other than what I would prefer and Obama is “Not Present”. I guess I should be pleased at least that he didn’t rubber stamp Durbin? He is useless to Illinois as a senator - he simply doesn’t report for duty and I find that unacceptable, presidential candidate or not. ===

If Obama returns to the Senate; he will again rubber stamp Durbin (who himself is a rubber stamp for Harry Reid) when necessary, and slip back into obscurity otherwise. Our 'leadership' from top to bottom in this state has failed and it amazes me that these people are the "best" we can find.

A Citizen · 1 year ago

"...He’s got a record in the Senate..."
Really? What is it? Coulda fooled me. These guys take no responsibility for anything other than piggy-backing onto someone else's legislation that has proven to be politically beneficial. And then they crow like Sunday dinner's rooster!

James the Intolerant · 1 year ago

What major ethcis plans did he leave his imprint on? I'm not being a smart-***, I just want to know. Those ethics bills must not have been very effective, because we still have pay-to-play on steroids.
And when you say qualified and viable about Stroger you are off the mark. I think Obama actually delivered some important votes to Stroger. And while I don't agree that Emil "made" him US Senator, I think the Hyde Park/U of C $$ made him a viable candidate along with the fact that he is a very smooth operator, I don't think he is going to ring in on a topic that could make Emil uncomfortable.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

Dude, c'mon. Go Google it yourself. Leave your DC spin at the door, please.

rachel · 1 year ago

I may be wrong, but...if they wanted a comment from Senator Obama, shouldn't they have called his Senate office? The campaign office is for the Presidnetial race, they should not be commenting on his Senate positions.

Clown College Observer · 1 year ago

===Hardly. He’s got a record in the Senate. Rod never did compile one.===

Rich,

I completely disagree. His record in the Senate looks to be nothing more that a thinly-veiled attempt to fill in the right blanks on his resume to be a presidential candidate. That isn't to say that you could find a LOT of other pols that have records as thin, only that his list of accomplishments is pretty sparse.

It is also not helping things when the MSM makes these goofy statements comparing Obama to Lincoln, etc. Obama for me is far closer to a Jimmy Carter than Abraham Lincoln. I'm simply never going to agree with his stated positions (what little he has actually been pinned down on) and would never vote for the guy. None of this matters of course; Obama will win Illinois by at least 20 percentage points.

Steve · 1 year ago

Rich is right on this one.Obama could do something but he isn't interesting in change in Illinois politics.The fact that he'd support Todd Stroger,hang out with Tony Rezko,and be quite silent on the recent Cook County sales tax increase,and not bothered by the Hired Truck scandal speaks volumes.Obama is your typical,sleazy Chicago politician.You'll be hearing more about this stuff on McCain commercials.

Plutocrat03 · 1 year ago

No myth Ric

Letter from Sens Obama and Durbin:

"Today we write to urge your attention to one race in particular.
Our friend, Todd Stroger, former state representative and alderman,
is candidate for president of the Cook County Board. Please
consider voting for Todd.... Todd is a good progressive
Democrat, who will bring those values and sensibilities to the job."

Seems like an endorsement to me. Tod Stroger is no refeormer, nor was he expected to be.

Other than being otherwise engaged, Sen. Obama is additionally beholden to Emil Jones. If he had the temerity to shake things up all his political sponsors would be up in arms.

When you consider the positive spin he could get from the populist slant for simply asking for good government, it makes me shudder regarding what he would do on the international stage.

By the way, what record in the Senate? I appreciate that freshmen tend not to be leaders, but he has been nearly silent.

I was in office when the last set of Illinois ethics reforms were introduced. They were laughable. We would call the new rules the 'Lack of Ethics Reform Law"

keep it in the family · 1 year ago

As a US Senator, Obama's office has been horrible at constituent services, a major responsibility of any elected official. Carol Mosely Braun ran her office the same way.
Obama has been running for President since he was sworn in and this has been a disservice to the people of Illinois.

phocion · 1 year ago

Nice idea, Rich...for McCain to call him on. If Obama hasn't done anything as Senator so far, though, it's exceedingly unlikely he'll bring attention to the ethics-challenged state of affairs here. He's gotten a pass on his lack of reform bona fides in the past, and no one will pick it up now. That is, unless McCain/Palin start hammering him on it and connecting the dots between Barack and Emil.

Mr. Cub · 1 year ago

What's the myth? He did endorse the Strogers, didn't he? That reflects his point of view on reform. How's that a myth?

Snidely Whiplash · 1 year ago

I think this has gotten way off topic. Remember, some use reform to further their careers. Others use their careers to further reform. Anybody even remotely honest (at least with themselves) knows which category Obama fits into.

Ted · 1 year ago

If so many Illinois residents feel let down by Obama's failure to fight for positive change here in Illinois (as these posts evidence), would it be unfair to conclude that this is a harbinger of things to come if he is elected President and has to stand up to his own party in Washington to bring about "change!"

bad call · 1 year ago

Suppose he made the call to Emil and persuded him to call for the veto. How long would it take McCain's troops to get an attack ad on the air taking the Blago talking points and saying that Obama got his Chicago Pals to stop the governor from making the ethics bill stronger. Doesnt want to limit campaign contributions etc.

I know it's not true, you know it's not true, but this is a national media that is willing to take all kinds of claims on their face (See: 'Obama wants to teach sex ed to 5 year olds' as an example)

plutocrat03 · 1 year ago

Rich

DNC spin, Sen Obama is a tool of the Chicago machine.