Good Lord!! I looked at the 'junglepatti' website and now I feel sooo dirty. train111
GA Watcher
· 6 months ago
The Cubs statement sounds strangely familiar to the one they issued when Sammy got caught with the corked bat, doesn't it?
Anonymous
· 6 months ago
Rahm/Obama hearts Lisa. Pretty remarkable that she gets this level of admiration considering her dad. You gotta wonder what Alexi is thinking at this point.
Government workers are fired, this is a protected activity, fire him now.
Vote Quimby!
· 6 months ago
Hmmmm...any correlation between Geo's 2008 and 2009 stats?
Rich Miller
· 6 months ago
Fire who? Soto? For once doing pot? Are you outta your mind?
I may be a Sox fan, but leave that poor cubbie alone. lol
Secret Square
· 6 months ago
Now how did we get from 10,000 threatened layoffs to "only" 2,200 threatened layoffs in a couple of days time? Was it just the pension bond thing that made the difference, or what?
corvax
· 6 months ago
I'm not understanding where this idea that LMadigan is the "most popular" politician in IL comes from, unless its truth is a function of its being repeated so often.
I do understand that her dad may be the most powerful politician in IL, and those who have created her career seem to have done a good job of employing that power and wedding it to a vaguely "good-government" type image. I don't buy into the assumption that she's any more invincible than other democrats. Alexi, for example, would as easily beat Kirk in a senate race, and Quinn won't have a much harder time beating any of the myriad republicans thinking about running for governor.
In fact, in certain quarters, such as some minority and downstate communities, i think both would out-perform her (not that they'd generally be voting republican instead, but that either of those guys would mobilize a larger turnout than her in a general election).
also, i think many voters are growing resentful of the number of legacies in IL politics and are especially suspicious of her dad--rightly or not.
I've always assumed she'd at some point rather be governor, since that position involves so many more jobs and contracts than being a senator, and, perhaps cynically, i think she's all about political power like her old man. that being the case, can she afford a senate career with the possibility that Giannoulias or Hynes or some other young politician who also wants to be governor does so in the next election? Alexi can, as i understand the rules, use his considerable federal dollars, and anything he might still have in his state fund, to run for governor if so inclined. (Not, frankly, that i think she'd just roll over him if both ran in the senate primary as Rahm and so many others seem to assume.)
James Rockford
· 6 months ago
The notion that Lisa Madigan is the most popular politician in Illinois undoubtedly stems from the fact that she is head and shoulders above any competition in any poll that's been run the last several years.
However, her high polling numbers could be a cautionary tale. I point to two other high-flying Attorneys General in Illinois--Jim Ryan and Neil Hartigan--who could not take it to the next level despite high--and in the case of J. Ryan--soaring--poll numbers.
Anonymous
· 6 months ago
"I’m not understanding where this idea that LMadigan is the “most popular†politician in IL comes from"
Um, it comes from every poll taken in the last year, many of which Rich posts here.
Mr. Ethics
· 6 months ago
Quinn should tell everyone which agencies are in line for cuts and how quick will these furlough days need to be taken. This spin on employee cuts and furloughs are making me dizzy.
Mike Ins
· 6 months ago
The Quinn Who Cried Wolf...
So Monday this week it was the social service agencies going to release insane crippled dialysis patients in the streets by July 2nd... by Friday it's not so much that at all, it's employee layoffs and furlough days. 10,000! Or wait, is it 2,200? Or is it...?
Look, I understand fluid situations, but credibility here is getting shot, no?
CircularFiringSquad
· 6 months ago
Once again Quinn negotiates with himself, concedes and IL gets farther away from closing the gap...Good Job. Can we assume World Laughing Stock's Don and Roma will be doing a live remote on Mrs. Blagoof's return. Wonder if she will eat the hairy toad for the cameras? BTW University of Emil runner-up,DoctorCarolAdams, contradicted Quinn in a briefing today and told providers they will get slashed. Biz honchos beat poor, sick people again.
corvax
· 6 months ago
my gut feeling is that those speculative polls would not translate into comparable real world results in the context of a contested primary/general election sequence.
sal-says
· 6 months ago
"www.JunglePatti.com"
I guess that's better than 'PottiMouthPatti.com'
dupage dan
· 6 months ago
Credibility? Credebility? Weee don neeed no stinkin credibility!
Look ma, no credibility!
Huh?
· 6 months ago
==In fact, in certain quarters, such as some minority and downstate communities, i think both would out-perform her (not that they’d generally be voting republican instead, but that either of those guys would mobilize a larger turnout than her in a general election).==
Why would you say that? What makes you think that Alexi or Quinn have a better standing with minority voters than Lisa? And what makes you think they could mobilize a larger turnout when she has produced more statewide votes than either of them? Her standing with the African American community is very strong and her record is much stronger than Alexi's on a host of issues that are of concern to many in minority communities. It seem like an opinion with record to back it up?
A Citizen
· 6 months ago
This whole credibility thing and Illinois is really an incongruency. To get to the "Truthiness" of it all we need to get Quinn on the Colbert Report!
I'mTellingYou
· 6 months ago
I know that Rahm Emanuel meant it as a compliment when he refereed to Lisa Madigan as "the 800-pound gorilla in Illinois politics" but it just doesn't seem right to use that slogan when talking about a lady. Guess I'm kind of old fashion.
Princess
· 6 months ago
Well, I don't think I like the sound of what would amount to a 5% paycut on top of a raised income tax. Gov. Quinn you're just going to have to go back and tell the citizens I said 'NO' and the Republicans that they can find that extra revenue in that 'magical someplace else'.
See, as said before, I don't mind doing my part, but no, have no desire to take on other peoples' share too.
Six Degrees of Separation
· 6 months ago
I'm Telling You-
Does "the daughter of the 800-pound gorilla" sound any more flattering?
Rich Miller
· 6 months ago
===my gut feeling is that those speculative polls ===
Speculative polls? As opposed to... what? Your gut? lol
corvax
· 6 months ago
as opposed to polls naming declared candidates taken during an election when the opposition's running attack ads and the candidates and their surrogates are sparring
Rich Miller
· 6 months ago
I got ya. But that goes both ways.
815Sox
· 6 months ago
"Now how did we get from 10,000 threatened layoffs to “only†2,200 threatened layoffs in a couple of days time? Was it just the pension bond thing that made the difference, or what?"
The 10,000 number is including the Private Agency workers. It is alot easier to lay us off. We will most likely take the big hit.
Independent
· 6 months ago
What an amazing world we live in when a man feels compelled to apologize for smoking some pot. If he had drunk 14 beers and staggered back to his hotel it would have been A-OK.
815Sox
· 6 months ago
That is silliness regarding Soto.
However he has gained quite a few pounds.. maybe it wasn't so isolated lol :P
Rich Miller
· 6 months ago
===The 10,000 number is including the Private Agency workers. ===
Nope.
Quinn has said the 50 percent budget would cause 100,000 private agency layoffs.
The 10K was for state workers. But that was not a plan so much as a ballpark scare tactic, apparently.
815Sox
· 6 months ago
"Nope.
Quinn has said the 50 percent budget would cause 100,000 private agency layoffs.
The 10K was for state workers. But that was not a plan so much as a ballpark scare tactic, apparently. "
oh joy...
thanks for the correction though.
Quinn is not looking too good right now. I almost feel bad for him as he is taking the blame for this budget fiasco when it rests on all IL lawmakers shoulders
Princess
· 6 months ago
Actually I don't blame Quinn for this budget mess at all. While I'm sure many do and many others won't agree with my reasoning, I think he's trying hard. He walked into a real mess, has a bunch of thumping pols beating all over, and he is trying to work together and do some compromising. But in the end, he's appearing to many as a waffler, poor leader ect.
And on top of that if thousands of stateworkers hit the door, myself I would blame Cross who is the one demanding the 1 billion additional cuts. May not be true, but it's the way I see it.
A Citizen
· 6 months ago
I think Quinn is using a random number generator (RNG) as he discusses his budget of the moment. As we all know those numbers are reliably inconsistent.
this voter will remember
· 6 months ago
Whatever happened to laying off the 'political appointees'. I'm not talking about the ones hired 20-24 years ago - I'm referring to the ones who were hired as liaisons (under Blago) and are now Directors (who BOUGHT their positions). Or all the recently created Directors or Deputy Directors positions where they do absolutely nothing. This is no longer the proud State of Illinois - this is the State of Disgust.
Leatherneck
· 6 months ago
Is this 2,200 figure only for state employees under Quinn's jurisdiction (CMS-tested positions), or does it also include the other constitutionals too (SOS, Treasurer, AG, etc.). I also would think the contracturals, 75-day workers, etc. that are non-union positions will probably be hard hit if this threat becomes reality.
Bobs yer
· 6 months ago
Next I see PQ holding a gun to a photo of a disabled kid's head and saying "don't make me pull the trigger!!"
In the meantime MJM and Cullerton will be solving the problems behind closed doors. Who'd ever thought we'd be looking to these two for reform?
wordslinger
· 6 months ago
You think Alexi's gotten the message yet from the White House?
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train111
I may be a Sox fan, but leave that poor cubbie alone. lol
I do understand that her dad may be the most powerful politician in IL, and those who have created her career seem to have done a good job of employing that power and wedding it to a vaguely "good-government" type image. I don't buy into the assumption that she's any more invincible than other democrats. Alexi, for example, would as easily beat Kirk in a senate race, and Quinn won't have a much harder time beating any of the myriad republicans thinking about running for governor.
In fact, in certain quarters, such as some minority and downstate communities, i think both would out-perform her (not that they'd generally be voting republican instead, but that either of those guys would mobilize a larger turnout than her in a general election).
also, i think many voters are growing resentful of the number of legacies in IL politics and are especially suspicious of her dad--rightly or not.
I've always assumed she'd at some point rather be governor, since that position involves so many more jobs and contracts than being a senator, and, perhaps cynically, i think she's all about political power like her old man. that being the case, can she afford a senate career with the possibility that Giannoulias or Hynes or some other young politician who also wants to be governor does so in the next election? Alexi can, as i understand the rules, use his considerable federal dollars, and anything he might still have in his state fund, to run for governor if so inclined. (Not, frankly, that i think she'd just roll over him if both ran in the senate primary as Rahm and so many others seem to assume.)
However, her high polling numbers could be a cautionary tale. I point to two other high-flying Attorneys General in Illinois--Jim Ryan and Neil Hartigan--who could not take it to the next level despite high--and in the case of J. Ryan--soaring--poll numbers.
Um, it comes from every poll taken in the last year, many of which Rich posts here.
So Monday this week it was the social service agencies going to release insane crippled dialysis patients in the streets by July 2nd... by Friday it's not so much that at all, it's employee layoffs and furlough days. 10,000! Or wait, is it 2,200? Or is it...?
Look, I understand fluid situations, but credibility here is getting shot, no?
Can we assume World Laughing Stock's Don and Roma will be doing a live remote on Mrs. Blagoof's return. Wonder if she will eat the hairy toad for the cameras?
BTW University of Emil runner-up,DoctorCarolAdams, contradicted Quinn in a briefing today and told providers they will get slashed.
Biz honchos beat poor, sick people again.
I guess that's better than 'PottiMouthPatti.com'
Look ma, no credibility!
Why would you say that? What makes you think that Alexi or Quinn have a better standing with minority voters than Lisa? And what makes you think they could mobilize a larger turnout when she has produced more statewide votes than either of them? Her standing with the African American community is very strong and her record is much stronger than Alexi's on a host of issues that are of concern to many in minority communities. It seem like an opinion with record to back it up?
See, as said before, I don't mind doing my part, but no, have no desire to take on other peoples' share too.
Does "the daughter of the 800-pound gorilla" sound any more flattering?
Speculative polls? As opposed to... what? Your gut? lol
The 10,000 number is including the Private Agency workers. It is alot easier to lay us off. We will most likely take the big hit.
However he has gained quite a few pounds.. maybe it wasn't so isolated lol :P
Nope.
Quinn has said the 50 percent budget would cause 100,000 private agency layoffs.
The 10K was for state workers. But that was not a plan so much as a ballpark scare tactic, apparently.
Quinn has said the 50 percent budget would cause 100,000 private agency layoffs.
The 10K was for state workers. But that was not a plan so much as a ballpark scare tactic, apparently. "
oh joy...
thanks for the correction though.
Quinn is not looking too good right now. I almost feel bad for him as he is taking the blame for this budget fiasco when it rests on all IL lawmakers shoulders
And on top of that if thousands of stateworkers hit the door, myself I would blame Cross who is the one demanding the 1 billion additional cuts. May not be true, but it's the way I see it.
In the meantime MJM and Cullerton will be solving the problems behind closed doors. Who'd ever thought we'd be looking to these two for reform?