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There are so many things in the state that could use a little money for repairs & upgrades, including state parks, SCHOOLS, bridges, SCHOOLS, state buildings, SCHOOLS. No capitol program, but lets refurbish Wrigley?!?
If Blagojevich is so in love with sports, then leave state government and manage (or buy with the help of his connected buddies) a team. But leave the state to someone who cares and has testicular fortitude enough to make a genuine difference.
Besides, Blagojevich is the *last* person on the face of the earth I'd want to drink a beer and talk sports with. He's a phoney to the core.
I know that's never happened before, but still.
While this is dumb idea, it is certainly no dumber than putting slots at AP so Churchill Downs stockholders can rake in more mooolah.
The State gets Wrigley Field for $1.
Then gets to charge the Cubs $10 - $20 million a year in rent to use it.
At that point - no tax dollars are spent. Any future renovations and improvements would be financed not by tax dollars, but by marketing deals or naming rights, according to big Jim Thompson.
And the Cubs stay in Wrigley.
Despite what you think - there has been genuine fear for a while that a new owner would move the team out to a fancy, new, more profitable stadium in Schaumburg. You and I know that people only go to see the Cubs at Wrigley BECAUSE OF Wrigley.
But there are also tons of suburbanites who want to be able to go to a Cubs game without having to venture down into the city - enough to pack a new stadium. I think a new owner could make the same amount of money with a new stadium, even if it hurts the ambiance and tradition.
I am not saying I whole-heartedly agree with this. But I don't think it is a scam to give more money to Zell.
I have project I'm working on right now that would cost a lot less money (less than 5 million) and benefit more people, including a large number of children.
I have had a lot of help from local legislators and several constitutional offices. Word has been passed to the Gov's office through several channels, but to no avail. His is the only office that has not responded.
Maybe if I went through Hannah Montana...
The Canning group is the preferred ownership group, but reports say they don't have more than $600-$800 million to spend on the purchase. That would not be enough to buy the Cubs AND Wrigley.
Take a look at this item in Sneed's column, today:
"Hmmm. Here's a little dugout dirt.
* To wit: Sneed hears rumbles the John Canning group, which is vying to buy the Chicago Cubs and includes Tribune insiders like Andy McKenna, were well briefed about the possible sale of Wrigley Field to the state -- and may have been trying to push it along because it would benefit them as possible future owners of the Cubs.
* Isn't it true other groups vying for the Cubs had to wait to hear about it in the news? Questions. Questions."
The one positive way to look at this is simple. Wrigley Field and the Cubs are a cash cow for the city of Chicago and the state. How much added revenue do the Cubs add to the state's pocket books and Chicago's treasury? I would assume that, when combined, the stadium, the team merchandise sales, the bars and restaurants surrounding the stadium and all other money spent on everything else is quite substantial. It's still not necessary to do anything like this at a time when we literally have no money, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Why would they be preferred if they don't have the cash? And if the state can take Wrigley over for $1, why not give it to the "Preferred ownership group" for the same price.
Let the market decide. If Wrigley goes for a big chunk of change, that's a good indication that the buyer will fix it up and keep the Cubs there.
The State should spend its limited funds on things that benefit the citizens like education, infrastructure, & public safety.
Bearss: If it costs $350 million to fix it up (to which you would have to add annual maintenance) and they can only rent it for $10-20 million/yr; how does that pay for itself? Ever? There will need to be another upgrade long before the first one is paid off.) BTW, the sooner the state sells the south side park, the better.
That's the question you will have to ask Major League Baseball. It is a group with ties to Bud Selig.
Most likely the only group that will receive approval to buy the team.
MLB is finicky about its owners, and they will let a team go for far below market before they let it go to the "wrong person."
In the end, who they sell it to is not up to the State.
"Any future renovations and improvements would be financed not by tax dollars, but by marketing deals or naming rights, according to big Jim Thompson."
That being said, the City of Chicago, not the State of Illinois, should be the ones pursuing the purchase of Wrigley if they feel that a potential move to the burbs is possible. The Cubs aren't talking about leaving the state, they may be talking about leaving the City of Chicago.
That being said, I think a move to the burbs is highly unlikely, and this is a move to get Canning et al in as owners. There is no need for the state or city to buy the stadium and make the repairs. Baseball has had record profits and there is no reason for the state to get involved in which ownership group owns the Cubs. The city may want/need to get involved, but it's too early and threats of leaving aren't serious enough.
I say if the Cubs want to go, let them go. We'll tear down Wrigley Field, and replace it with a new stadium and a winning team.
Go Cards.
Zell could make $1 billion - $1.1 billion off a sale that involves the Cubs AND Wrigley.
Zell could only make $600 million - $700 million off a sale that involves just the Cubs, with Wrigley going to the State for $1.
It seems to me to be exactly the opposite of what you said.
Yet, I don't know if I support this yet because this seems to be a way to more easily sell the team to the Canning group as I said previously. I prefer Mark Cuban ownership over Canning ownership.
But that is different from saying this is a subsidy to a billionaire.
From the Sun-Times...
==What's in it for Zell is the ability to get a huge up-front payment -- tens of millions of dollars higher than he might otherwise receive selling the stadium privately -- by having the sports authority use its power to issue longer-term bonds at a reduced interest rate.===
If they steer this to the Canning Group, they will only get $600-$700 million.
If the State would be buying Wrigley for a price higher than on the private market, I would be opposed. But the Sun-Times piece is just wrong - that is not what is being proposed according to every other article out there.
This isn't about Zell. This is about MLB getting the ownership group they want.
Anderson Economic Group valued the Cubs at $600 million, and some reports have put it higher than that. That number has been linked to the Canning Group's projected offer.
Cuban has said he would pay over $1 billion for the package.
Plus, why should the state subsidize the Canning Group's bid? It's billionaire welfare.
Daley highballed the Fire for the Comiskey parking lot site on the premise there is some inherent value in being inside the city limits. AEG passed and went with the Madigan deal in Bridgeview. Serving the geographic distribution of the Fire's fanbase catchment was an important factor.
The problem with rehab is it will knock all the "charm" out of the place but still not equal the economic return or fan amenities from a new site. See Yankee Stadium. Nobody is complaining after the crappy 70's rehab about saving "the House That Ruth Built".
Skyboxes, parking, more seats, naming rights and night games all add up to a big pile of money.
Other work/support from Zell/Tribune in the future, perhaps?
It is taking Wrigley Field out of the sale, transferring it over to the State. This allows the price for the Cubs to be lowered to the point that the Canning group can buy it cheaper.
If the State were to purchase it for $200-$300 million, that could be seen as subsidizing the Canning Group. But if the State gets it for $1, then you can't make the same argument.
Like I said, I don't like this because I would prefer to see Cuban as the owner. It reminds me of when the Red sox sold a few years ago for $700 million. There were higher bids. But the owners have to approve any new owner, and many suspect Selig tried to steer it to the right person.
That looks like that is what is happening now.
Does it harm the State? If the State can get Wrigley for $1, then it seems that the State comes out the winner.
But I would still prefer Cuban to own it.
The number of Super Rods cronies, flunkies, mob buddies, illegal campaign donors, ghost payrollers and other assorted detritus could easily FILL Wrigley Field. Just fill, build a 12-foot razor ribbon fence around it and guard towers at all four corners. You improve the value of the property by turning it in to something useful and you get all of the Chicago criminals in one place. In return the Cubs can go play at some AAA park commensurate with their overall quality.
I just don't know. What is HE thinking?
That would be a subsidy.
The following sentence:
"If the State were to purchase it for $200-$300 million, that could be seen as subsidizing the Canning Group. But if the State gets it for $1, then you can’t make the same argument."
Look - your premise is wrong. Zell could get hundreds of millions more by selling Wrigley with the Cubs.
The argument of whether the State should buy it is separate.
In the end, this is a maneuver for MLB to get a preferred ownership group selected. That is the point I am opposed to, and that's why I don't like this deal.
But that still means your premise is just incorrect.
A Citizen, are you kidding?
Gene, Of course I am kidding. I would much rather invest in Ryan. :.) But seriously if we are going to own casinos, or Chicago is, why not baseball teams? Why stop at just the ballpark?
Condos, okay. But doing that to Wisconsin could lead to a war between the two states.
It could mean job security for Fitz until he retires.
By the way, as I undertstand it (and I had nothing to do with that issuance) the sweetheart Reinsdorf lease (dependent on revenues from increased rentals based on increased attendance) forced the Sports from the Authority to go after other revenues which had been put up almost as an afterthought -- it almost was the knell for the Cell which was not well.