DISQUS

CapitolFax.com: Disunity Day

  • hollywoodhendon · 2 years ago
    The big story was what a huge turnout Hillary had. I know you mentioned they bussed in two loads of people. It sure seemed like more than that.
  • Wumpus · 2 years ago
    As a republican I am happy about the disunity of the dems. I will not celebrate too soon as the problem seems to be Blago and Jones vs other Democrats (Madigan, Hynes and Gianullius is staying above the fray).
  • Macbeth · 2 years ago
    Okay, someone has to say it, so I will: the singing about healthcare is weird. Just plain weird.

    It has the pungent whiff of something Hugo Chavez would do -- dancing around, preening, singing populist ditties.

    HST *would* have had a good time with all this. Where is that documentary crew? The weird have turned pro -- and they're having an outstanding time about it.

    I'm surprised -- and genuinely so. This just keeps getting better -- and weirder.
  • I was there · 2 years ago
    This governor has no sense of shame.
  • Dem Bob · 2 years ago
    It also seemed that the phalanx of Clinton folks were getting a lot of petition signatures from people with Obama buttons and shirts.
  • Patriot · 2 years ago
    In-fighting is what Illinois gets for electing children with borderline personality disorders to public office.
  • L.S. · 2 years ago
    So, the boo-birds were contract state employees afterall...shocking.
  • In the Know · 2 years ago
    Does anyone think there will be a capital bill now? Highly unlikely as Blago and now Jones are seen as not trustworthy.
  • Ike · 2 years ago
    Seriously...there is something wrong with Rod.
  • Mr. W.T. Rush · 2 years ago
    I think I noticed J & T (new code to get past the censor) sobbing cause BlunderBoy doesn't sing about girls anymore

    Bet that use of federal job funds to ship in performers for the rally earns Fumbles and Giggles a trip to Dearborn street. They are thre a lot anyway to see Stu, Ali and Donny so what is another stop in the Grand Jury buffet line?
  • One_Mcmad · 2 years ago
    Mayor Daley should not have anything to say about what the Governor does; whether right or wrong. He needs to focus on the city budget, the Chicago Police Department, the Office of Professional Standards. His house is not clean and so he should decline comment on the conditions of someone elses house.
  • Southern Right · 2 years ago
    Mark your calendar folks. August 15, 2007 the beginning of the end for Illinois Democrats. Our Governor has counted on the fact that 95% of the voters only read the sound bites. That appears to be changing. I predict more deer in the headlights very soon.
  • Levois · 2 years ago
    I know this is off-topic, but I just have to make a comment on Mike Flannery's shirt story that I saw after the story about the Democratic leaders disunity. I'm laughing, very funny.
  • From the Sidelines · 2 years ago
    While posts have jokingly questioned the sanity of the governor, I truely believe the man has lost his mind. Are there any psychologists out in blogland willing to render a diagnosis? -Patriot 9:58 am- I think you may be right.
  • Guy Fawkes · 2 years ago
    When the Democrats arrived at the fair, did they all come together in a ridiculously small car like say, clowns at a circus?
  • hillarywho · 2 years ago
    If there were two busloads of hillary fans there, they sure couldn't be heard.

    Even Alexi complimenting Hillary only got a smattering of polite claps.

    80 hillary people in a crowd of 1,500 obama fans doesn't seem as newsworthy as you are trying to spin it to be.
  • VanillaMan · 2 years ago
    When Blagojevich announces who gets cut from the budget, the political benefits he thinks he is getting will end.

    We are broke. There is not enough "pork" in this budget for Blagojevich to take. With each proposed cut, there are representatives and senators that will howl in protest. The news media will begin running stories about how Blagojevich will deny communities infrastructure maintenance, firetrucks, police protection, highways, bridge repairs and other daily necessities.

    Enjoy it now Blagojevich. By the way, when Elvis was referred to as "the King", they didn't mean it in a governmental sense. It seems you don't know this.
  • Cassandra · 2 years ago
    What the Democrats in this state need is a viable Republican party.

    Talk about being careful what you wish for. They wanted all the power. They got it.
  • MTP · 2 years ago
    I'd really like the Senate President to quit whining about how Madigan won't let him run the Senate the way he wants.

    Note to Emil: It's not Madigan's chamber, its your chamber. Step up and be a man.

    And consider the fact that part of the reason so many of your members were off the reservation this year was because it was clear from day one you were looking out for yourself, and just throwing your collegues under the bus. Just ask Gary Forby.
  • Garp · 2 years ago
    I never knew state politics was so much fun. I mean this is really starting to get good. When Daley starts chiming in, you know the gloves are off. This has only just begun.
  • Captain America · 2 years ago
    I just can't to dislike the Governor personally. He gave a great campaign speech at the Democratic County Chairman's Breakfast and on the Fair Director's lawn. His staff did an excellent job of orgnanizing the rally on the Director's lawn. Thank goodness, the Governor and Senator Clinton bussed people to the Fair for the rally, or attendance would have been dismal. Even though I am supporting Senator Obama, I welcomed the presence of Hillary supporters since she is a native daughter of Illinois.

    I thought Dan Hynes' remarks at the breakfast were entirely appropriate, and I was very sorry he didn't come to the rally at the Fair to repeat them. Neither Lisa and Dan attended the rally. Mike Madigan was a good sport for showing up at the rally - I was sorry he was booed - he doesn't seserve this disrespect, given that he is the most competent of the top three Democratic leaders. Lou Lang was everywhere - Friday evening at Boone's and he was kind enough to tell me about Alexi G's hospitality event at the Alamo. I was disappointed that Lisa's fundriaser at Floyd's Thirst parlor was cancelled because the Senate was in session.

    I give the Governor and his staff credit for thinking creatively, if not constitutionally, in declaring their new health care strategy. I enjoyed the SJR editorial yesterday about process. But I recommend that everyone read Eric Zorn's take on the current situation in today's Chicago Tribune for a healthy perspective. Zorn view's the Governor's latest declaration of intent as a "clever poker play" enhancing his bargaining position in terms of giving the Governor some leverage in trying to achieve a scaled back version of his Illinois covered initiative.

    Senator Jones will rue the day he double-crossed Mike Madigan. I can't believe that Jones blamed Madigan for sabotaging the capital bill - it lacks the ring of truth and reflects an inferiority complex, as well as political paranoia. My opinoin is that blaming Madigan for his own ineptitude is a convenient rationale for breaking his word to Mike Madigan on the veto override. Senator Jones has become a prevaricator,as wll as a hog feeding at the trough.
  • Anon · 2 years ago
    Looks like Rod's political future is as dead as Elvis.
  • Slugo · 2 years ago
    It's hard to fathom the extent of wrongness in what's happening in Illinois. Rich's 'disunity' column above is chock full of examples of the depths to which our political leaders have lead state government. The worst of them, Blagojevich and Jones, have no shame. What a pathetic crew. I'll give Dan Hynes some credit for appearing to try to do the right thing.
  • Another Pro-gunner · 2 years ago
    Last time I checked, Jones had the 36 votes he needs to pass anything he wants. If he cannot get members of his own party in the chamber he is supposed to run to vote for measures he feels are critical, then how is that Madigan's fault? But if Madigan CAN exert more influence than Jones in the Senate, both with Ds and Rs, perhaps that simply means Jones needs to find another job, and leave D Senate Leadership to someone more capable. Calling out the guy who you imply is more influential with folks you are supposed to lead, as well as those from the opposition party you both share, just seems a stupid admission that you are woefully ineffective.
  • snidely whiplash · 2 years ago
    I'd say the Governor has overdosed on testicular virility. He's made some powerful enemies within his own party, and he better prepare to get the H*** out of Dodge in four years.
  • hollywoodhendon · 2 years ago
    Hillarywho...80 volunteers IS a lot in any campaign. There is no doubt Obama had more support, but it does illustrate that not everyone from Illinois supports Obama. The reason no one clapped when Alexi referenced Hillary has more to do with the fact that people think he is such a goof than anything to do with Hillary.
  • Rich Miller · 2 years ago
    "Hollywood," please. Alexi was very well received there yesterday. Nobody clapped for Hillary because very few there supported her, despite her bussed-in ringers.
  • Team Sleep · 2 years ago
    They have everything: all six constitutional offices, both chambers, both senate seats and a majority in the Congressional delegation. Yet nothing gets done. I think the Dems shot for the stars and are realizing their ship is heading straight back down to earth. I also am curious as to why MJM was a co-chair for Blago's 2006 re-election campaign. It seems as though it was nothing more than face-saving move that wound up backfiring more than helping.
  • Captain America · 2 years ago
    Hollywood,

    I agree with Rich that Alexi G was well-received. His hosptality event on Tuesday evening at the Alamo was very well-attended. At least he had a fair-related event - Lisa had to cancel hers for legal reasons. He looks like a guy with a bright political future to me. I'm not xure why you characterize him as a "goof". He seems to being a good job as the State Treasurer.
  • Check the Contract · 2 years ago
    The Auditor General reviewed Eddie Read's IDOT contract and now needs to revisit to review the billings. The governor's campaign denied any involvement with him being there - and pigs fly.
  • Champ · 2 years ago
    I still can't believe the gov keeps reminding everyone that his health care plan is "as constitutional as it gets." Legislative approval of the plan and the necessary appropriations for it would be as constitutional as it gets.

    And on top of that, his spokespersons are complaining about how unbalanced the budget is...just wait until the unilateral imposition of a totally unfunded campaign tactic.
  • steve schnorf · 2 years ago
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the Southtown editorial.

    If they really believe they are accurately communicating what has happened over the last four years with legislative pay raises it's enough to make you cry.

    If they are knowingly using facts plus omissions to paint a false picture, then I guess I would laugh at any claim of integrity by the editorial writer (and I fear it may be a writer whose work I have long admired: I certainly hope not).
  • really now · 2 years ago
    Observtions...

    Hynes embarassed himself with comments about being concerned about folks getting their paychecks at the breakfast. Thanks to AFSME, we all know the people could have been paid but he wanted to play a political game which he lost. He's finished.

    Alexi was a class act speaking at both the breakfast and on the fairgrounds.

    Rod was very well received...I watched the popularity of his message grow for healthcare after he spoke.

    Clinton people were a minority and Emil shone all day.
  • FAN of CAP FAX · 2 years ago
    What a joke...hollywood hendon calling anyone else a "goof". He does know goofy.
  • Anon · 2 years ago
    It was too hot in the afternoon to really enjoy any of the speeches, but in the morning the Governor was the best I've ever seen him. Regardless of where you stand on the content of his remarks, he was passionate and seemingly completely off-the-cuff. I haven't ever seen him give that good of a speech.

    I thought that the Speaker came off dignified and classy. It was clear that the day was set up to gang up on him a little and he just came off like the bigger man. Not that he cares much about his own PR, but hat's off to him.

    I was impressed that the AG directly challenged the Governor, but really disappointed that she made a point of leaving before he gave his remarks. I'm old fashioned, if you are going to call someone out, don't run away when they have the opportunity to respond.

    And Alexi continues to shine.
  • Lula May · 2 years ago
    Rich,
    Why would you call the Hillary supporters bussed in ringers? I don't think you referred to the Obama supporters as ringers ?
  • Hmmmm? · 2 years ago
    Are you saying the govs office lied about bringing people in? No! I can't imagine that. Shocking! That's what it is. Shocking! Mr. Fitzgerald, please help.
  • Marbley · 2 years ago
    Alexi continues to shine. For sure, he is a guy to watch. He makes his Mother and Father proud. Keep up the good work for The People.
  • KantStandit · 2 years ago
    This may be going back too far in the subject matters covered here, but I can see one or two different ways by which the Governor could constitutionally expand eligibility for health care, which is all he's said he's doing, and get the additional services paid for. I think everyone's confused by his rhetoric and braggadocio. It's really not much of a problem, especially if he doesn't get as much demand for the new program as he's estimated.
  • Fed up State Employee · 2 years ago
    Speaking of "disunity," check out the picture of MJM shaking hands with Rod (Patty sitting next to him) on the front page of the Springfield SJ-R today.

    "What were they thinking?"

    You can also see it online at http://www.sj-r.com/photography/. Click the link for "'07 Illinois State Fair - Aug. 15." It's the second picture.
  • sundaymorningnews · 2 years ago
    I volunteered at the fair for Hillary. There were no bussed in ringers. Rich, your statement has no basis in fact. We all met in Greek Town at 5:45 a.m. and carpooled down to Springfield to be there by 9:00 a.m. I, and many others, worked hard the entire day gathering signatures and passing out materials in 100 degree heat because we believe in Hillary Clinton. Frankly, I resent your comments Rich. Plus, Rich, where would these bussed in ringers come from? There isn't a ward organization in Chicago that would help Hillary. Come on Rich, you are better than this. Make sure it is true before you print it.