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Give me a break. Seriously, if Topinka (as annoying as I personally find her) had taken a reasonable running mate, I might have been contemplating voting for a Republican gubernatorial candidate for the 1st time in my life. However, I can't do that with Birkett on the ticket. I have to remain with my idiot over their moron.
Sad day for IL.
1) Donations were solicited by top campaign fundraisers Rezko and Kelly;
2) No donations were received because the Capri/Capital refused to bend to n illegal shakedown
3) Capri/Capital continues to do business with the state because they threatened to go to the cops.
It strikes me that this may be the tip of the campaign donation iceberg. He didn't get those millions on good looks.
How wonderful.
You know what? I don't care if Blagojevich was directly involved. I don't care if he's really 'Public Official A.'
The fact that 'Pay to Play on Steroids' was happening under his watch -- either directly or indirectly -- is despicable.
The fact the the governor is getting 1500 checks from best friends and can't explain what the check is for -- this too is despicable.
What's most despicable is that this is the crap that Blagojevich was supposed to stop. And I'm sorry, but indictments from the Fed don't count as a "good thing."
It's despicable.
While many have stated that it could have been worse for Rod, yes it could have. But, this is only the door being opened a crack. There probably be many more of these to came.
This particular indictment may not be the death blow to Blago but you can bet that there will be more to come. (Queue up Jaws music)
1. State that any PAC or person which has contributed to her gov's campaign cannot and will not get any contracts or any other type of buisn. from the state should she win.
2. All people hired by Rod will be given a chance to keep their jobs should she win. They will meet with a private hiring firm who will evaluate their qualifications. If they meet them, they stay, if they are not qualified they get launched.
Doing these two things will make her seem like she is going to change the way things are done.
If she won't do these, well she is no differnt than anyone else who has run for the job.
So there ya go GOP, can she do this?
Here come mandatory 3 day ethics seminars for everyone but Blagojevich and his rich cronies.
Moreover, the continued implication of Levine and Cellini can be used by Blago to bash Topinka.
Damage Control: Will be in HyperDrive tonight, can't wait to see their spin on Thursday. Maybe we'll see some resignations.
This makes it much more difficult for the Gov to DK him.
Oh really.
What about his indicted co-conspirator Tony Rezko?
4) Capri/Capital continues to do business with TRS and other public pensions because they do a good job and make us money.
5) Guess we didn't get the memo about no more business for Capri/Capital: TRS allocated $20 million to another of their funds in August of 2004. So far, it's doing fine.
6) Shiela Nix wouldn;t know a fact if it bit her in the a**.
I can't believe all of these lawyers are getting busted. Why bother with 3 years of law school if you're just going to throw it all away? Do people who care about justice (I mean for real) have to sit next to some of these slimeballs in law school? Jeez.
Oh, and I can't wait for the Levine plea. Oh, is that going to be fuuuunnnnn.
Hey Dems. Vote R this time around. Otherwise, just stay home. You're going to be very very embarrassed if you cast your vote for beady little weasel eyes, and I don't care how nice his suits are or how perfect his hair is. Rod's on the way into a downward spiral. Just a hunch, of course, but nonetheless, I wouldn't vote for him.
Lavin was Rezcko's CFO for the P.J. Pizza business that has been tied up in Federal court on other issues resulting from a lawsuit against Rezcko by the corporate pizza chain.
It appears Lavin was involved in the GE Capitol $10 million loan that Fiztgerald accused him of defrauding investors... WE NEED ANSWERS
Lavin needs to state his involvement & resign...
He'll have to spend more time than he'd like explaining this indictment and his connection to the slimy Rezko.
But it won't cost him the election.
ROFL!!
Is anyone out there wondering why it took 2.5 years to make this indictment? It is all based on wiretaps from the spring of 2004. There also seems to very little to take the ball up the field. Then of course there is KJ, Cellini and Levine. Maybe we should get some react from Jryan and Daniels.
Oh, I forgot, we want this to be all about the governor
Even though I don't agree with most Republicans, there are many I respect. . .Tom Cross, Steve Raushenberg, Jack Kubik, Bill Black and many others. Heck, I'm not a big Frank Watson fan, but he would have been a better choice. There were a number of candidates JBT could have chosen that would at this point in time make me far more comfortable in voting for the Republican ticket for Gov. Joe Birkett (or Oberweis) do not qualify for providing that comfort.
Lastly, please do not assume that I'm ignorant enough to think the Lt. Gov. does much more than cut ribbons. That said though, the office is next in line for the Govs. office. Given the corruption and general ineptitude of the current administration, could I see voting for a Republican candidate to flush out the system and start anew? Yes, I could. Would I oppose that individual in 4 years? Yes, most likely. End result, could I live with 4 years of JBT as Gov. for the good of the state? Yes. Could I accept the potential that Joe Birkett could succeed to the Gov's. mansion? Never.
"That 'thump' you just heard was Tony Rezko being tossed under the bus."
Yep, and I look for him to "roll" from under it very soon.
And Rezko's a big guy, wouldn't he have gone "thump, thump, thump"?
What Arrogance!
Based on that statement, doubt if we'll ever see Rezko back in this country or maybe code to stay wherever he is.
No press conferences
No debates
Hide behind Nix
Reappear late Nov 7th for victory speech.
Now we wouldn't want to even think there is anything political about the timing! OL Fitz wouldn't do that.
Madigan holds hearing only for political reasons, National Dems rig the release of the e-mail sex scandal news, but the other party wouldn't do that, NOOOOO.
The real problem is it all stinks, the entire system. I have heard folks say publicly "what good is a politician if they can't give me or my family a job?"
Politics have become do whatever it takes to win and take control, including releasing things at the most opportune times.
Now that we all have spewed our little theories, does anyone actually believe the voters will follow this and respond accordingly? Personally, I think most people will stay home on Election Day simply because they don't know which liar to believe.
I hope I'm wrong
CLUE
Campaign Fund is next.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/
articles/mi_qn4155/is_20050817/
ai_n15326917
more mud will be slung sports fans.....
this story is important but it will not have the crippling impact that all of judy's are convinced will happen. people who follow politics get all worked up about stories like this but other than a temporary bump, this will not change how most voters think.
just look at the sorich and mccarthy indictments. sorich was daley's director. he was not some "low-level employee." when fitzy went public with those indictments, all your heard on talk-radio were those silly, uninformed comments predicting daley's demise (i heard comments such as "daley is next," "daley had to know what was going on," "daley won't run again," and "daley will look good in orange.")
a week later, everyone moved on to another subject. the issue was resurrected when sorich and mccarthy were convicted, and it promptly disappeared a week later.
moreover, another illustration of this was during selection of ryan's jury. after being innundated with "ryan is a crook" comments, the jury was simply unaware of all the stories and allegations.
i know that must bug judy's people but voters will not remember this.
reporters are impotent. they have little power to influence elections.
sorry, rich.
ROFL.....
No, really, Take it Easy, is that you, Bill?
However, where he is mistaken is comparing this to Sorich. Daley is popular with voters and represents just Chicago, where he has done a pretty good job.
Blagojevich is not popular and has to deal with the entire state. Reporters are often intimidated by Daley. Not so much with Blagojevich. I could go on, but you get my drift.
Your analogy falls flat. Daley is a longtime officeholder who enjoys immense personal popularity, and there was no allegation that anyone in his inner circle did anything for personal enrichment.
Blagojevich is a first-term incumbent who is immensely unpopular -- 50% disapproval rating -- and his top fundraiser allegedly charged a half-million dollar kickback fee on top of a $1.5 million campaign contribution as a quid pro quo for $220 million in state contracts.
BIG difference.
of course there are differences between rod and rich. that was not the point.
my point was no matter who the politician is, voters will vote based on factors other than some "october surprise."
Rod Blagojevich
Judy Baar Topinka
Rich Whitney
Pat Quinn
Joe Birkett
Julie Samuels
If a voter likes Pat Quinn better than Blagojevich, Topinka or Whitney, what's so crazy about voting for Blagojevich/Quinn with the expectation Rod Blagojevich will be resigning soon?
D-E-N-I-A-L. What's going on at Dick Mell's house tonight is the drinks have been flowing for several hours now. And as for Elvis being such a good family man, what does it say for someone who would do what Public Official A is supposed to have done, risk going to prison, and not being around to watch your kids grow up? If I were First Lady and First Daughters, I'd be really pi$$ed about now, hopefully realizing they have been used just as every single person Elvis knows.
Patrick Fitzgerald claims he prosecutes political crime without calculating the political effects before making the move.
Freezing a campaign fund a month before an election would make the prosecution all about the politics, not the crime.
SCOTUS would have to make a political ruling it doesn't want to make.
Ok, it's low of me to gloat so much, but for the long-suffering ones that were being shouted down with Blago lies and fables, and the continuous denials and shouts of 'home run for Rod', you've got to allow us a little opportunity to luxuriate in being right all along.
As far as the October surprise, it would have been better to have this a few months ago but the shear magnitude of the case made it take longer. And from as many "individuals" as there as, we have only seen the beginning. This will take longer than Ryan's ordeal.
VERY EMBARRASSEDnIL!!
Didn't Apollo Creed win the fight?
"The Incredibles"?
"Lady and the Tramp"?
"The Devil's Rejects!?!?!"
The problem is, they were wrong. The media was tough, the Legislature did what it should have (i.e. oversight), and everyone knew you could trust MJM a heck of a lot more than you could trust Blago.
Having been a state legislator himself (albeit a pathetic one), AND being Dick Mell's son in law, I expected better from him.
That being said, I am not sure I want to hand the keys back to the Republicans and I sure as heck don't feel like voting for FRod. Depressing.
Told you so.
AA
That may not work all that well when it boils down to two excuses: unaware or liar.
Look for him to grasp at straws by invoking Cellini as a purely republican animal, more involved with them than him. Won't work. The walls are closing in. Rezko almost certainly will roll over on Rod, and there are no more layers to the onion; Fitz has gotten to the source of the stink.
The weekend will be full of speculation as to when Rod's indictment arrives. I put $3 in the pool for Tuesday.
Sorry I'm late but Ive been a little busy today. What is the topic of the day?
"The people of the State of Illinois are tired of corruption and scandal within both political parties. Every day we hear something new. Governor Blagojevich has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty; however, with so much smoke, it is understandable that the voters suspect that there might also be fire."
Watch the goon squad lawyers who are question the low man state workers slide away from this stinker.
I wonder if BC has his tickets for Sicily yet?
Welcome, and I congratulate you for your good humor. Take it in stride dude.
If you really want a dramatic change in IL politics, it is time to turn to a political party who is not responsible for the corruption and personal self interest that has gotten us in this DEBACLE.
Send a message that IL politicians have to listen to! Don't stay home, vote Green and force the two parties to restore IL government to the original democratic intent of representing the people, not just campaign contributors!
Afterall, IL IS the Land of Lincoln, and Lincoln was a third party candidate who promised to reform and delivered. IL needs a MAJOR political jolt.
Vote responsibly!
I am so glad that they got this out. I am rooting for JBT all the way. This is much worse than JBT being linked to Ryan. these people are directly related to Blagojecivh and people need to understand that. This is how I think the election will turnout like this if this becomes the most controevrsial piece against Rod then Thoughtful democrats, and Republicans who were going to vote against Topinka will vote for Topinka. Oh and as well as Independents and Undecided Voters.
Oh and Broken Heart Of Rogers Park thank you for once again putting another one of my videos on your blog. It helps me out big time.
I hope that this behavior was not widespread in the administration but if it was,I am sure that the governor will get to the bottom of this and heads will roll.
Obviously, since the governor is an honest man and always tries to do what is right, he will not be indicted.
Ill be back to take questions in about an hour.
Blog on!
By the way, could you give me the talking point on why Milo reappointed Levine?
Also, if Milo is indicted, will he resign?
Not a proud day for that industry.
"The 24-count superseding indictment...."
Re: Page 1 of the text from the USDOJ press release at:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/pr/chicago/2006/p...
Now, if memory serves me correctly, an "si" only comes after the grand jury makes the initial indictments, but then additional evidence (and probably additional counts) are presented in another grand jury session. So, any additional/revised indictments asked for at that point are "supseding indictments".
That would mean the federal grand jury has already spent some real time of this one.
Any legal experts able to provide some additional insights here?