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Re: Green was a Red

Angie — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:00:20 -0000

McCarthyism? Oh, come on. They're just reporting what was in the guy's past. Since when is the truth McCarthyism?

Me thinks that some of you are out looking for McCarthyists "under every bed" sometimes.

Besides, better an "October surprise" than an October Revolution.;-)

Re: Green was a Red

Leland Milton Goldblatt — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:50:21 -0000

The State GOP Party and JBT are partaking in
McCarthyism. It is pretty sad if this is all they had
to go on? A protest vote is a protest vote. I will
vote for Mickey mouse over the candidate of choice, and as the late
Walt Disney said the League of Woman voters were are Marxists Commies. {When they supported unionizing of his Park and studio}

If the paper knew about this some time ago and decided
to run it as an October surprise. They to are Partners with Joe McCarthy. Otherwise, they had a Story to write but have an obligation to us readers and did so. This is news, and big News. I hope the editors knew better then to be used by a candidate.

Does anyone know, did RW filled out the anti-communism affidavit? When he did his petition?

Re: Green was a Red

Squideshi — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:57:01 -0000

I think what happened here is that the Republicans got really worried about Whitney's results being higher than Topinka's results, because if this happens three times, under state election law, the Green Party becomes the "second leading party" and gets all sorts of advantages, like serving as the other half of the State Board of Elections and appointing Election Judges throughout the state.

Re: Green was a Red

Another Limerick — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:27:06 -0000

A candidate with a poll share teeny
Passed himself off as a Greenie
Then a reporter named Krol
Made the story unfold
And revealed a Socialist weenie.

Re: Green was a Red

Angie — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:16:42 -0000

VanillaMan wrote, "If you are old enough, or attended a university, you would have been taught that planned socialist governments are our future. So, how can anyone be surprised that Whitney believes that stuff enough to become a registered socialist? In a lot of 'educated' circles, socialism is still considered progressive. Even after the fall of Communism, and the economic decline of those 'progressive' countries of Western Europe, a lot of Democrats are still rooting for some kind of happyland government experience."

I have a theory about that. I suspect it has to do with the tenure system. I mean, think about it. That's socialism right there. No matter how incompetent or crackpot insane (Ward Churchill, for example, the fake Native American who really isn't one), they are GUARANTEED a job and academic freedom! Nice gig.

So, you know. They live this system and it works for them just fine. I mean really, if I were a more #'s oriented type and could handle advanced stats and crunching #'s all day long, heck, I'd go into academia and do nothing but research and publish, too.

So you can see why they don't always realize that it doesn't work out that way in the real world.

By the way, I wonder if they give everyone top grades all across the board? From each according to his or her cognitive ability, to each according to his or her GPA needs? lol

Re: Green was a Red

Pat Hickey — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:03:38 -0000

'He isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t a Republican or a Democrat now, and he wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t one 20 years ago either. Back then he recognized the inherent corruption of both corporate parties and wanted no part of it. '

He is am amateur - long and the shork of it. That is what comes of amateur politics or Artificial Grassroots. What some of these folks are trying to pass off as grassroots is merely outsiders looking in and late comers cutting to the front of the line.

Re: Green was a Red

Truth — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:43:41 -0000

Face it Greens, your numbers have only been decent because Whitney is unknown and fell nicely into the category of "none of the above".

Now, as his positions become known, he'll become one of the above. Pray for 5%.

Re: Green was a Red

Phil Huckelberry — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:29:02 -0000

Rich, come on, you know you're not being fair here. The reality is that the report has already been addressed. Whitney was forthcoming with the media when he was asked. What more addressing do you want done? He isn't a Republican or a Democrat now, and he wasn't one 20 years ago either. Back then he recognized the inherent corruption of both corporate parties and wanted no part of it. Over the years his politics evolved. So it goes. You're acting like there's something else that needs to be "addressed", but I don't see it. If there's something left hanging that needs to be addressed, ask a direct question.

The real story here as I see it is not Rich Whitney's background. The real story here is that the Republicans have sunk to a desperate last-minute tactic - red-baiting, of all things - and some members of the media have not merely gone along for the ride but have actually been in the driver's seat. How is calling attention to that "worse than the major parties"? We're not supposed to give these people a free pass because they happen to be journalists, are we?

I'm trying to understand your point of view here, but I can't see it.

Re: Green was a Red

Jaded — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:00:22 -0000

It is easy being Green,

Thanks for dignifying my posts. Wow, how lucky can I get, a member of a fringe political party paying attention to little ole me. However, if your statement were even romotely believable, then that would mean that (on your best day) less than 300,000 voters will admit to voting for one of the two major party candidates. That is a pretty silly premise.

Thanks for your offer to join the party, but the only things green about me are my eyes.

Re: Green was a Red

Rich Miller — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:54:08 -0000

These comments really show bad form by the Green Party, whining about a reporter instead of addressing the report. You guys are worse than the major parties, and that's really saying something.

Re: Green was a Red

Dan Rather — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:39:55 -0000

Krol is as good as or better than most of those people. If you don't realize that public radio is a left wing propaganda arm, you don't understand much about the media.

Re: Green was a Red

shocked — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:23:07 -0000

I am not happy with the Republican choice for governor and wouldn't vote for Blago because I seem to be one of the few Illinoisians left that thinks breaking the law should be left to the criminals, not politicians (you know like importing drugs illegally). But I will vote for Judy now because I would NEVER vote for a "Marxist".

Re: Green was a Red

VanillaMan — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:20:39 -0000

I am surprised at the level of comments.

If you are old enough, or attended a university, you would have been taught that planned socialist governments are our future. So, how can anyone be surprised that Whitney believes that stuff enough to become a registered socialist? In a lot of "educated" circles, socialism is still considered progressive. Even after the fall of Communism, and the economic decline of those "progressive" countries of Western Europe, a lot of Democrats are still rooting for some kind of happyland government experience.

So what if Whitney was a registered Socialist? For crying out loud, we have a slew of crackpot politicians touting the same old hash of government planning as some kind of "new idea".

Geez people, Pelosi is a freakin' Socialist by all practical purposes. She's probably to the LEFT of Whitney on some issues.

Whitney's outing shouldn't surprise anyone. And anyone claiming to be a Democrat should feel right at home with his socialist agenda. He is more Paul Simon than Blagojevich, isn't he?

I'd rather have a Whitney, than a Blagojevich.

Re: Green was a Red

Bluefish — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:07:54 -0000

Looks like I'll be eating crow for thinking Whitney would get 18% or more. Change that to 4% or more. Glad I waited until tomorrow to actually vote.

Re: Green was a Red

Yellow Dog Democrat — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:03:42 -0000

Dan Rather:

Chicago Columnists' A-List:

Rich Miller
Greg Hinz
Phil Kadner
Eric Zorn
John Kass
Mark Brown
Kristin McQueary
Ray Hanania
Ben Joravsky

Re: Green was a Red

Nick Naylor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:17:37 -0000

*** respectfully submitted, of course!

Re: Green was a Red

Nick Naylor — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:16:12 -0000

Hey Rube-
I will gladly renounce my social security benefit (Not that there will be one when I get to 65 ... or 70 ... or 75) for the right to make my own decisions with regard to MY money, provided that the money that I have already contributed to this pyramid scheme you speak of is refunded (with interest, or course) and I can opt out of other "social services" that the big government socialist left advocates "provide" me with if I do not use or do not want them.

Re: Green was a Red

It is easy being Green — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:05:51 -0000

Jaded,
I didn't want to dignify your posts with a response, however, how many people do you think will admit they voted for either Rod or Judy? My guess is far more people will proudly both cast a vote and admit to supporting Whitney/Greens.

The Green Party is the future. Get ahead of the learning curve now and join us. ilgp.org

Re: Green was a Red

Jaded — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:53:19 -0000

Well some of you people are certainly drinking kool aid mixed with something. If you think that an issue like this won't make a difference after a generation or two of Americans grew up hating/fearing Socialism, Communism, Marxism, and Facism ("ism's in my opinion are not good" Ferris Beuller) which most people think are all one and the same, then you don't know politics as much as you all claim you do.

To say it won't make a differnce because people aren't paying attention is one thing, but if you think a downstate conservative Democrat, or a card carrying Republican from any part of the state will ever admitto voting for a Socialist (or in this case a former Socialist even if he currently supports right to carry legislation) then you are a little too into the green (if you know what I mean!

Re: Green was a Red

Bill Baar — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:45:50 -0000

The funny thing here, I suspect Whitney was mum on his Socialist Labor Party past because it's a pretty stodgy bunch of guys... and it was mostly guys as I remember them.

This group was old left when Eugene V. Debs was running for President in 1912 on the regular Socialst Party ticket that had eclipsed the SLP by then.

Re: Green was a Red

Squideshi — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:23:52 -0000

I see that the Pinka footsoldiers are now taking a page out of the Blago book. I always get a good laugh when they all start posting on the blog at the same time because it's just so obvious. Judy is getting so desperate; and the fact that people simply don't care about an irrevelant prior political affiliation, from more than 14 years ago, is only making her more desperate.

In other news, Rich, were you aware of the Hearld story that accused Whitney's campaign manager of breaking state ethics law? Cindy Canary over at the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform actually said that she was misrepresented in that article and that there was no clear violation, as Patterson claimed that there was. Plain false.

Re: Green was a Red

Jasper — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:17:52 -0000

Not so fast:

Why would Topinka's marriage status be relevant?

I think that raising a child as a single mother and still having time to give back to the public and take the heat that comes with public service is as good of a value as you can find.

Re: Green was a Red

Keyser Soze — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:13:41 -0000

So what if Whitney is a Commie. A vote for him is really just a vote for Blago. But, then that's probably just a vote for Quinn. Yet, if you invoke the sanity clause there is little choice but to vote for the zany JBT. Logic 101.

Re: Green was a Red

Not So Fast — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:01:36 -0000

Ronald Reagan, believed by many conservatives to have been the greatest president, was a former Democrat. He was also the first divorced president. So much for family values.

Speaking of divorce, candidates for governor or president are almost always married. It seems that there has been little mention of JBT's divorce and/or personal situation.

Re: Green was a Red

Jasper — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:00:07 -0000

YDD:

You sure about the Kool-Aid thing?

It's a non-relevant point, but Whitney said he met his wife at a Socialist convention when he was a journalist. He did not say he was there for personal reasons.

Blagojevich has spent $14 + million on hammering Topinka with a bunch of lies and misinformation.

Again, Whitney is a serious candidate. He has received media attention and endorsements.

This is part of the deal, like it or not.