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CapitolFax.com: Impeachment Day – 114-1-1 – HOUSE IMPEACHES BLAGOJEVICH *** Guv to hold press conference at 2 o’clock *** More on Patterson ***

  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    House vote a month to the day from the arrest. I'm embarrassed by my initial impatience with the House. It's pretty quick and thorough work, all in all.
  • kimsch · 11 months ago
    CLTV is broadcasting.
  • Anonymous Coward · 11 months ago
    From the trib:

    "though only 115 of the 118 answered the roll call.."
  • kimsch · 11 months ago
    Madigan had to ask the chamber to stop talking.
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    It's possible Reitz is not there.
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    If Wyvetter Younge hasn't been replaced, that accounts for the third missing member.
  • wndycty · 11 months ago
    Am I the only who saw Barbara Flynn Currie reference Rod brushing his hair? Methinks it was a purposeful laugh line.
  • kimsch · 11 months ago
    wndycty - I heard/saw that too.
  • chiatty · 11 months ago
    Tom Cross is a good man, a good family man and a terrific legislator, but there's no way in *&^% they found "that fine line between fairness and due process." This was just another rig job committee that comes out of the long tradition of fixed committee hearings. Let's hope the trial has some substance.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===If Wyvetter Younge hasn’t been replaced===

    That's true.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===This was just another rig job committee that comes out of the long tradition of fixed committee hearings====

    Rod, is that you?
  • Juice · 11 months ago
    Krupa has been officially appointed, right?
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    Cross is babbling. Historic moment. Prepare your remarks ahead of time.
  • Cassandra · 11 months ago
    I imagine most Illinoisians are, like me, less fascinated by the process, more saying to themselves, enough already. Impeach Blago and seat Burris. This is getting way tedious.
  • Phineas J. Whoopee · 11 months ago
    Is this a bad Sunday sermon-C'mon Tom-stop the rambling.
  • How Ironic · 11 months ago
    No, Rich, Chiatty isn't Rod.

    He's too busy formulating his "115-0 It's an up day!" Press Release.
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    Reitz IS one of the three skipping.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===This is getting way tedious. ===

    Cassandra, grow up. This is an historic debate. They are legislators and they have the right to express their viewpoints.

    No more comments like these, please. You'll be deleted.
  • One of the 35 · 11 months ago
    All legislators commenting should remember to be brief and be seated.
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    Or I should amend to say that Reitz is doing a radio interview right now...not sure if he answered the roll and left.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    Reitz is there.
  • Cassandra · 11 months ago
    Rich,

    Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not critizing the legislators. I understand what they are doing and why. And we are grateful that this group, not known for its political courage, is proceeding with this hearing.

    I'm saying that this whole situation has gone one way too long. The state is in pause mode and has been for the longest. The work of us ordinary folks is so not getting done.
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    @Rich

    Okay, we have Reitz live on the air right now so I wasn't sure...and didn't want to assume. But I did for about ten seconds.
  • silly show · 11 months ago
    The committee should have just stuck to the criminal complaint and the ethics reports.

    By being all navel-gazy and complaining about JCAR and healthcare and prescription programs, they undercut their central arguments and give the Governor an out.

    He can now just say they impeached him for trying to help people. Since they leaned so heavily on the healthcare stuff, that's kinda believable.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===they undercut their central arguments and give the Governor an out.===

    Wrong. Read the resolution. It's a totality of the evidence, not individual acts.

    Try not to read too much into things, please.
  • silly show · 11 months ago
    That's my argument - that by including weaker, ego-driven issues into the whole, they degrade the quality of the whole "totality."

    I am not saying they intentionally gave him an out. They gave him a way to dismiss it.

    For example, if he wins the JCAr lawsuit, what do they do then?
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    Evan Meacham was impeached and removed from office in Arizona on some of the same charges he was later acquitted of in federal court. But his impeachment conviction stayed on his record, and he never held public office again.
  • Concerned Observer · 11 months ago
    Heh...I think WBBM should have been doing "impeachment traffic" updates for House members trying to get to Springfield from the city and suburbs during this nice weather we're having. Mighta helped Feigenholtz :)
  • Bill Baar · 11 months ago
    We stand here today becase of the perfidy of one man

    So the Guv was at this all by his lonesome all these years.

    That's a little much. Recall these words if Fitz goes for a RICO and calls the whole State Government a criminal conspiracy.
  • Phineas J. Whoopee · 11 months ago
    Ouchie wawa-that was a good speech. I have become a fan of Rep. Mendoza.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===For example, if he wins the JCAr lawsuit, what do they do then?===

    If, if, if. And if the sky was green then grass might be blue.
  • phocion · 11 months ago
    Maybe Dunkin is brushing Rod's hair for him.
  • kimsch · 11 months ago
    Rep. Mendoza, "It's amazingly fitting that Governor Blagojevich face impeachment today of all days. On his self admitted hero Richard Nixon's birthday. Their common bond of impeachment will unite them in history's dark annals of corruption, but even Nixon displayed more integrity than Blagojevich by resigning before he was impeached."
  • Anonymous45 · 11 months ago
    Granberg's resignation makes me think that Rod may have one more Gubernatorial appointment up his sleeve before he's history...if he appoints Granberg to head up DNR, I hope it's the first thing Gov. Quinn undoes after he's in charge...
  • Arthur Andersen · 11 months ago
    "Perhaps Gov. Blago should stop hanging out with criminals."

    Most, if not all, of those people, were not criminals until they got Blagojeviched.
  • ChiefIlliniwek · 11 months ago
    Any word on Dunkin primary challengers? What a clown.
  • Skip · 11 months ago
    Is there any channel covered by RCN that is showing the house live right now? I cant get the video to work on ilga. I saw someone mentioned CLTV earlier but couldnt find it on RCN.

    Thanks for the help.
  • Anonymous Coward · 11 months ago
    @CO

    It's 33 and sunny here in Springfield..
  • OneMan · 11 months ago
    Someone want to explain why this guy is sort of defending Rod?
  • Concerned Observer · 11 months ago
    ruh roh. I rescind my comment about bad traffic for Sara, and hope for the best.
  • Kevin Fanning · 11 months ago
    lol "got Blagojeviched," I like that. A new verb in politics.
  • How Ironic · 11 months ago
    If you have trouble with any feeds, CNN.com has a good one.

    On the audio side, if you are in springfield, 91.9 wuis public radio is very good.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    OneMan, they're just questions. Be patient and listen.
  • Juice · 11 months ago
    CNN.com is doing the live feed from the Chamber.
  • WCIL · 11 months ago
    What was Rep Miller's question?
    The feed fron IGA cut out and missed it
  • unclesam · 11 months ago
    New T-shirt: Just a slogan on the front -- "Have you been Blagojeviched?"

    For added effect, possibly a small picture of a kitty?
  • OneMan · 11 months ago
    Ok now it makes sense. Just surprised by his questions...
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===This whole impeachment sham is payback for the governor making their lives miserable the past three years or so.===

    Yeah, go with that one. It's all the evil House's fault. Rod did nothing wrong whatsoever. He's a hero. He's innocent. He's the greatest governor ever.

    That'll work, I'm sure.

    CBS2...

    ===A survey reported in Rich Miller's "Capitol Fax" newsletter shows Illinois voters have had it up to here with Blagojevich, who is the focus of impeachment proceedings in Springfield.

    When asked "Should the General Assembly remove Gov. Blagojevich?" – 78 percent said "yes"; 12 percent said "no." Ten percent said they didn't know or were not sure.===
  • Kevin Fanning · 11 months ago
    ===For added effect, possibly a small picture of a kitty?

    ===

    I like that google image of just the hair alone standing at a podium:
    http://home.mchsi.com/~beyondbelief/podium.gif
  • carbon deforestation · 11 months ago
    WBEZ's online feed is carrying the WUIS audio http://www.wbez.org/FlashStream.aspx

    Monique Davis "what has brought us to where we are today? We heard a lot of rumors, read a lot of newspaper articles. I'm not going to say we turned our head, but each of us had bits of information"

    Okay Representative - I'll say it - you guys should have done this last year right after Rezko was convicted and the Ali Ata plea was entered. it makes you all look bad that you didn't do it sooner. I know about the Emil roadblock, but still this should have happened sooner.
  • bored on 1 · 11 months ago
    Rep. Davis said "What has brought us to where we are today?"
    I heard Darren McGavin "The Old Man" from A Christmas Story...
    "What has brought you to this lowly state?"
    Maybe our Governor has soap poisioning.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===I know about the Emil roadblock, but still this should have happened sooner. ===

    The Emil roadblock made it impossible. Also, the House simply wasn't ready to impeach last year or in 2007. This is a gigantic step. It's the hugest thing imaginable for politicians. And the step couldn't have been taken without something big like the governor's arrest.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    Chiatty, I'm not sure what your point is. The power of impeachment is in the Constitution. The federal criminal charges are separate. It's up to the GA, they don't have to wait on the feds.

    A governor has never been impeached until today. And he's not the first governor that was unpopular with the GA. It's a lot bigger than that.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    wordslinger, Chiatty has no point. Just another RRB troublemaker trying to blame everyone else for the problems caused by the governor himself. That's nothing new.
  • Nearly Normal · 11 months ago
    Thanks for the link to Trib/WGN video. Local cable does not have today's session.

    All eyes are on Illinois. I read several online papers including Irish and British. They are also following this no doubt because of the Obama connection in regards to the Senate seat.
  • Arthur Andersen · 11 months ago
    AA tips the hat, a bit late, to Rep. Monique Davis. Heartfelt and right on point.

    "You have not just shamed yourself, you have shamed all of us and the entire State of Illinois."
  • Anonymous Coward · 11 months ago
    Trib:

    "Where, you might ask, is Gov. Rod Blagojevich as the Illinois House debates his impeachment?

    A Tribune photographer took pictures of Blagojevich going jogging in his Ravenswood Manor neighborhood at about 10 a.m."
  • Nearly Normal · 11 months ago
    Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Blago goes jogging.
  • Been There · 11 months ago
    ===Any word on Dunkin primary challengers? What a clown. ===
    I think the question might be better phrased as "Any word on who's Dunkins attorney?".
    And keep the clown part.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    --A Tribune photographer took pictures of Blagojevich going jogging in his Ravenswood Manor neighborhood at about 10 a.m.”--

    You can run, but you can't hide.
  • Scooby · 11 months ago
    He's got a 2pm presser in the blue room.
  • observation · 11 months ago
    Who was the "no" vote?
  • Kevin Fanning · 11 months ago
    HE GONE!
  • Been There · 11 months ago
    ===12 percent said “no.” Ten percent said they didn’t know or were not sure.===
    Who are these people? Maybe one out of 100 people but I can't imagine finding 22 people out of 100 who don't want him to go. Maybe the HD TV thing kicked in earlier and their analog TV's don't work.
  • oakparker · 11 months ago
    As an old cynic, I am really impressed by the sincerity and eloquence of the house members.
  • kimsch · 11 months ago
    so who voted against?
  • VanillaMan · 11 months ago
    Patterson was the "no" vote, according to the board, if I am not mistaken.
  • OneMan · 11 months ago
    Is Rod's presser in Springfield or in Chicago?
  • Say WHAT? · 11 months ago
    Patterson voted no. Anyone have any background as to why this would be?
  • Levois · 11 months ago
    So who in the blue h-e-double hockey sticks voted NO?
  • Say WHAT? · 11 months ago
    Andy Shaw from ABC just commented that Patterson might have voted no due to the district he serves being pretty well insulated and time will tell if his vote way a safe one or not. Could it have been the free rides for seniors and medical? If so - shameless pandering. People will see through that.
  • Nearly Normal · 11 months ago
    CNN doing a Breaking News report on the impeachment. Showed the gov running down the street from his house in the snow.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===Andy Shaw from ABC just commented that Patterson might have voted no due to the district he serves being pretty well insulated and time will tell if his vote way a safe one or not===

    Wrong.

    He didn't run last year.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    21-0, followed by 114-1-1. By contrast, the House Judiciary voted 27-11 on Nixon's impeachment. No full House vote.
  • Ken in Aurora · 11 months ago
    "Yeah, go with that one. It’s all the evil House’s fault. Rod did nothing wrong whatsoever. He’s a hero. He’s innocent. He’s the greatest governor ever."

    Rich, sadly there are people that feel this way - at least when they're late with their medications.
  • Nearly Normal · 11 months ago
    What type of job does voting present get you?
  • Levois · 11 months ago
    Heh, Milt's on his way out I believe. He should've voted present like Jeffries.
  • TGIF · 11 months ago
    Rep. Patterson - well, then whose "job" do you think it is?
  • Amy · 11 months ago
    Rep. Mendoza was a star today. Sure the remarks were prepared, but that is appropriate, and they were great. Not
    just well written, but delivered with a serious but fresh take.
    She's a candidate for state ticket consideration.
  • Concerned Observer · 11 months ago
    Nearly Normal: Oddly enough, I believe voting "present" earns you a no-show position.

    (sorry, too easy)
  • True Observer · 11 months ago
    "Phew"

    Why do you say that?

    Well it takes care of any opponent picking up petiton papers.

    What do you mean?

    You do know that petitions can be circulated starting August?

    That soon?

    Yea.

    So that's why the House keeled over.

    You bet.

    What about the other body?

    Most of them don't have to worry about peitions until 2009.

    You think that might make a difference?

    We'll see.
  • Sick · 11 months ago
    Finally! The light at the end of the tunnel is finally glimmering. I thought we were going to wonder in the dark for decades to come.
  • True Observer · 11 months ago
    The script should have said 2011.
  • VanillaMan · 11 months ago
    I'd like to comment on Al Riley's statement this morning. Rep. Riley felt it necessary to assure citizens that even after impeachment, society has systems in place to keep the world we know functioning.

    Can you imagine feeling that this needed to be said? I don't believe Mr. Riley is wrong to express these assurances. We have been pandered and pampered in our daily lives by nanny government to a point where there are fears that with the removal of a governor, our world collapses. This isn't a healthy citizen/government relationship, is it?

    Rep. Riley scores points for expressing these assurances. But let's hope in the future that Illinoians are mature and responsible enough not to have these kinds of fears.

    We control our public officials, not the other way around. When we believe the reverse of this, we are hostages, not citizens.

    Impeachement is finally here for Rod Blagojevich. It is a shame that this didn't occur when it should have, back in 2005. Had the General Assembly and our state leaders taken their responsibilities seriously instead of getting into bed with Blagojevich, 2009 wouldn't be as big a challenge as it is now. Three more years of his governorship had allowed his gubernatorial corruption to drive Illinois to bankrupsy.
  • Ghost · 11 months ago
    I dont know how people can say Blago is ineefective; thats twice now he has persuaded more then 100 members of the house to vote together.
  • Vote Quimby! · 11 months ago
    90% of state workers: going out together for a celebratory lunch at the local watering hole.
    10% of state workers: feverishly updating their resume and worried sick.
  • Lurker · 11 months ago
    ~Is Rod’s presser in Springfield or in Chicago?~

    OneMan, you serious?

    Another presser in the Blue Room. The days of big press conferences with dozens of "supporters" staged behind him are gone.
  • He Makes Ryan Look Like a Sain · 11 months ago
    Rich, Don't know what your numbers are for today, but ironically once the vote came down, I lost my connection to Cap Fax. Almost like the Gov pulled the plug on you!!

    It is a good day for Illinois. Well done to all House Members, I have gained a lot more respect for some of the members. Mendoza, Fritchy and Franks especially.
  • sal-says · 11 months ago
    "A Blagojevich spokesman said the governor will not resign. A 2 p.m. news conference with the governor is scheduled for the James R. Thompson Center in downtown Chicago."

    ...and hopefully announce his resignation? Too good to hope for?
  • Porter · 11 months ago
    Illinois pre-Rod = Corruption

    Illinois post-Rod = Corruption

    plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

    I am hoping for better, but not holding my breath.
  • Snowman · 11 months ago
    ===Any word on Dunkin primary challengers? What a clown. ===
    I heard a rumor that a Chicago lawyer, Dan Balanoff is going to be running, haven't heard much about him?
  • ChiGal · 11 months ago
    Nearly Normal -- "What type of job does voting present get you?"

    The White House.
  • S. Illinois · 11 months ago
    "If somehow that's impeachable, then I'm on the wrong planet"

    Does the space ship arrive at 2 p.m.?
  • Bill · 11 months ago
    OH WELL!
  • anon sequitor · 11 months ago
    Will DimRod declare this overwhelming vote against him another "victory?"

    I wish the Senate could convene the trial today.
  • HoBoSkillet · 11 months ago
    Is Dan Balanoff any relation to Clem Balanoff? Just asking...
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    True Observer, you predicted a close vote in the House.

    From now on, please refrain from making any and all predictions. Your pass has been revoked.

    Thanks.
  • bored on 1 · 11 months ago
    Woke up, fell out of bed,
    used a comb and brush several times upon my head
    when downstairs and had a cup
    somebody spoke...
    and I was impeached.
    I am not bored on 1 today...I am as giddy as a schoolgirl.
  • Nose For News · 11 months ago
    When will the sad sack media start asking Cross about his deals with Blaggo????????
    He says he "dismayed"
    Just called him a friend
  • So do ya?? · 11 months ago
    So do you think we should really expect him to preside over the Senate next week?
  • Nose For News · 11 months ago
    Cross presser was lame
    Media dropped by not pressing on his private deals with Blaggo
    What a messs
  • Snowman · 11 months ago
    I believe he's related to Tom Balanoff but It's the same family I'm sure..
  • Secret Square · 11 months ago
    The fact that some folks are still seriously predicting that Blago might somehow beat the impeachment rap just goes to show how deeply Blago's actions have infected the people of Illinois with cynicism. It's really, really hard not to be tempted to think he will, still, somehow, find a way to get away with it, and that the prospect of his being removed from office is too good to be true. That, to me, is far sadder than the impeachment itself.
  • Been There · 11 months ago
    OK. Back to looking into the crystal ball.
    ===Patricia Young resigned her seat on the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District’s Board of Commissioners to return to her former position in the public affairs division of the district.Under Illinois law, the governor appoints a replacement.===
    He waits until the trial in the Senate is almost over. Then appoints himself. Buys himself a few more paychecks, albeit smaller. I have no idea how you get rid of a MWRD commish but he could stay there until conviction.
  • Little Egypt · 11 months ago
    At the announcement of Rod Burris as his choice to replace Obama in the U.S. Senate, Rod gave a parting shot to the press that "even though I've enjoyed the limelight of the past two weeks..." Do you think he was basking in the limelight this morning and even more this afternoon during his upcoming press conference? The sad thing is that Governot Speechify will believe this is an "UP" day because he has been the center of attention, never mind every single bit of it has been negative.

    And suddenly, his desperate attempt to show the press that he is a "working" governor who goes to the JRTC every day seems to now turn to "watch me jog through my neighborhood at mid morning without a care in the world when I should be at work." How soon will Patti begin divorce proceedings? She, of all people, should know he's certifiably nuts. He just doesn't have the papers yet to prove it.
  • Leave a light on George · 11 months ago
    Bill

    Oh Well is the best you got?
  • Phineas J. Whoopee · 11 months ago
    Another up day in the Governor's bizzaro world. In all actuality, this is going to be an up day compared to what's coming.
  • Dan S, a Voter and Cubs Fan · 11 months ago
    In Blagoof world I'm sure it's an up day. Oh, look a kitty!!
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    VMan, do you know anyone who is scared or thinks the world is going to collapse if Blago is removed?

    Polls show an overwhelming majority of citizens want it to happen, so I don't think they're too scared from all that alleged nanny-state pampering (where does that come from, anyway?).

    Riley also brought up JFK's assassination and the tumult of the 60s in relationship to today's action. Give me a break. It's historic for Illinois, but it's still just tossing a cheap hustler out of office and nothing more.
  • Just My Opinion · 11 months ago
    If you all thought he was doing a great deal of bobbing and weaving during his press conference after his arrest, look for him to really be bobbing around today. I don't know what kind of meds he takes before press conferences like this, or what kind of meds he is on that keeps him from facing reality, but I'd like some of them once in a while.
  • Six Degrees of Separation · 11 months ago
    When asked “Should the General Assembly remove Gov. Blagojevich?” – 78 percent said “yes”; 12 percent said “no.” Ten percent said they didn’t know or were not sure.===

    What, did Bill vote multiple times?
  • Bill · 11 months ago
    Leave a light,
    Yeah, that's all I got.It's on to the next candidate, the next election, and next elected official. You really can't help someone who won't or can't help themselves.
    I'm glad Roland got taken care of even if it was for the wrong reasons. I think Dunkin deserves the MWRD job if that's legal. $50K and a car ain't a bad supplement for no work.
    That would just about wrap it up.
    By the way, while you are gloating remember that you are about six weeks away from the Quinn administration. So if you are looking for some return to "normalcy" you can forget about it. It will be a big payday for any old Walker cronies that are still alive.
    The Speaker may live to regret his death feud with ol'Rod yet.
  • Arthur Andersen · 11 months ago
    ===Patricia Young resigned her seat on the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District’s Board of Commissioners to return to her former position in the public affairs division of the district.Under Illinois law, the governor appoints a replacement.===

    Hmmm....pension spiking?

    Calling Tim Novak....
  • Been There · 11 months ago
    ====- Leave a light on George - Friday, Jan 9, 09 @ 11:34 am:
    Bill
    Oh Well is the best you got?===

    I thought it was funny. But not as funny as the day the gov was arrested though.

    ===- Bill - Tuesday, Dec 9, 08 @ 8:26 am:
    WHOOPS!
    ====

    I laughed all day at that one.
  • S. Illinois · 11 months ago
    Bill - you're one step closer to being freed of the shackles that have held you for the past six years. Do we need to call in one of those cult "deprogrammers" to help talk you down?
  • Anonymous · 11 months ago
    I knew there would be at least one who'd vote 'no'. Gotta get some press....or, halitosis is better than no breath at all. Loser.
  • Reality Check · 11 months ago
    What happened with Feigenholtz? Did she show up or did someone press her button?
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===What happened with Feigenholtz? Did she show up or did someone press her button?===

    She showed.
  • VanillaMan · 11 months ago
    When asked “Should the General Assembly remove Gov. Blagojevich?” – 78 percent said “yes”; 12 percent said “no.” Ten percent said they didn’t know or were not sure.

    It looks like 12% are concerned about their world collapsing. I also recall Rep. Flowers last night telling the committee that she has constituents who still believe that "the Governor is a saint", because of his freebies.

    Reps. Riley, Patterson, Flowers, and I'm sure a few of our other representatives are not crazy when they address constituents concerned over a post-Blagojevich future.

    Don't like hearing about how social programs infantize citizens? Sorry, it is just a fact confirmed through statements and actions today.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    Been There, your thought that Rod might appoint himself to MWRD might not be farfetched. Vulgar and insane, but not farfetched.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    VMan, like Rod, you have a unique perspective. Finis.
  • He Makes Ryan Look Like a Sain · 11 months ago
    OK, I have a question. Now that he has been impeached are his powers taken away or can he still do damage to the Government? My thought is at this time he should be placed on "Administrative leave" so he cannot inflict more damage.
  • jwscott72 · 11 months ago
    I was in the gallery this morning while all of this went down. The first thing that stood out was how few people spoke. Everyone I talked to before the House convened was saying "it will be 3 hours" or "there are 117 people that have to speak". Didn't take all that long.

    Secondly, Rep. Miller was getting a lot of dirty looks during his remarks. This didn't strike me as odd until the Patterson vote, but I have to wonder if no one took a whip count. It was a foregone conclusion (so much in fact that I had already pre-written by text message with a blank spot for the vote total).

    It was eerie to hear Speaker Madigan announce the Governor impeached. I always pictured this day would be filled with Bill Black yelling at the top of his lungs or other histrionics. It was solemn, diginified and the perfect way to begin what I hope and pray is a new chapter in Illinois.
  • VanillaMan · 11 months ago
    Bill -
    I know we all have an ego, but you've spent years fighting us over the very issues Rod Blagojevich was impeached on this morning. With the vote of 114-1, the Illinois General Assembly not just voted to strip your governor from the Office, their vote also puts them down as supporting those of us with whom you have been arguing.

    When you just shake it off and say that you are moving on, you are being unfair. Your comments this morning insult your years of Blagojevichian arguments and comments. Do you want us to believe that you have no comments on a day when your man was historically impeached?

    Last month, Alan Greenspan publically admitted how he screwed up. In 2006, and in 2008, I admitted right on this blog that I was wrong about both of those elections. I even wrote that you were right. I have read others who have done the same thing when they have been objectively shown how they were incorrect over a debate point or issue.

    You owe us.

    You owe us a little bit more than you have given so far today. You had been named "Capitolfaxblogger of the year" over your pro-Blagojevich postings. Your US Senate publicity was based on your Blagojevichian legend. Not getting a great posting on your thoughts today would be like buying the latest Clay Aiken album and discovering him singing Elvis Costello songs.

    You owe us a great mea culpa that only you can write.
  • VanillaMan · 11 months ago
    VMan, like Rod, you have a unique perspective. Finis.

    I'm not unique, hence my name.
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    ===You owe us a great mea culpa that only you can write.===

    If Bill really, truly believed all that crud he wrote, I'd agree with you, VM.

    However, I think 75 percent of it was him pulling everyone's chains.

    The question now is whom Bill shills for next?
  • Gordenita · 11 months ago
    . . . by the way, Bill, if you don't think the Speaker and the members would rather deal with a bunch of old Walker cronies rather than an administration whose liaisons rarely showed up at committee and when they did didn't know why they were there (or who had to call Hoffman or Handley and ask "Can I speak?") then you haven't been watching this disaster very closely over the past 6 years.

    Bring on the Walker people!!!
  • HoBoSkillet · 11 months ago
    The Mighty Quinn?
  • Blago Sphere · 11 months ago
    What time do you expect the politicians in the black robes; Illinois Supremes, will block for Jesse White and Lisa Madigan, while they pont by denying Burris motion for a Writ of Mandamus to compel Jesse White to sign and Seal Burris’ Certificate of Appointment to the U.S. Senate?

    Do you think that they’ll send Burris to federal court to have him work to overturn the Senate Rule requiring the signature and seal on the Certificate of Appointment as an unconstitutional extra qualification for becoming a member of the U.S. Senate.

    Reid and Durbin will be put in a box to either waive the requirement, or defend in court the 200+ year old rule that has never been waived before; according to Durbin.

    This will of course bring the issue full circle to where it started; with Durbin, immediately after Burris appointment, when he called for a Special Election.

    Do you think he will wait for Obama to tell him what to do again if this happens, or will Durbin be able to make a decision for himself; and stick with it?
  • Captain Flume · 11 months ago
    References to watch out for a Governorship under Patrick Quinn are probably a good assessment. As a Governor who was not elected, his strings to those to whom he may be indebted may not be many, thus making his policy objectives and procedures less predictable. The next couple years for Illinois state government should be quite interesting indeed. I really have not much of a clue as to Lt. Gov. Quinn's relationships with leaders in either chamber. The Governship may be something he has longed for, but I think he would be quite humbled by the manner in which he may be gaining it.
  • Hair today, gone tomorrow · 11 months ago
    So what does it mean now that the Il supreme court says Jesses doesn't need to sign the certification? Is Roland right where he started?
  • Captain Flume · 11 months ago
    And by the way, my own humble opinion is that Obama should keep quite a distance from the issue of whether or not to to seat Burris. He has a load of much more significant issues to address, plus seeing the Executive meddling with the Legislative branch just seems a little too "Illinois" for me.
  • Little Egypt · 11 months ago
    VanMan, Bill is THE #1 button pusher, and he gets a thrill out of doing so. That's the only thing anyone posting here trumps Rich at. However, Rich really worked hard at taking the title away from Bill when at the end of 2007 Rich named Bill the Blogger of the Year. I thought you should have won but, hey, if I want you to be the Blogger of the Year, I can start my own blog, right Rich?
  • carbon deforestation · 11 months ago
    MWRD is a good job - he should totally do that!
  • Blago Sphere · 11 months ago
    Then they blocked for Lisa and Jesse, and punted all the way to Washington.

    As predicted.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    --I’m not unique, hence my name.--

    Don't sell yourself short, dude.

    You took a few overwrought remarks by Riley, which he prefaced were meant for children, plus a 12% Blago approval rating and made a causal connection that "social programs infantize citizens."

    That type of thinking must be unique. I doubt if you read all the world press or all the political blogs on the impeachment vote that you'll find a similar analysis.

    You ascribe this condition to constituents of "Riley, Flowers, Patterson and I’m sure a few of our other representatives." What are you trying to say?

    By the way, Nixon had a 20% approval rating when he resigned. Were those Southern good ol' boys and big-city ironworkers "infantized" as well?
  • Bill · 11 months ago
    "please keep this as an open forum or you’ll be removed from my favorites"
    OH NO!!! Not that!
  • Rich Miller · 11 months ago
    LOL

    I deleted the comment just to make sure I was "deleted from [his/her] favorites."

    Moron.
  • Muskrat · 11 months ago
    Seeing that Nixon picture, all I can think of is that nobody on Earth but Steve Carrell can play Blago in the movie.
  • wordslinger · 11 months ago
    Rich, your "bais" is showing? Is that some funky new way to wear your pants or something?
  • Secret Square · 11 months ago
    I have also seen John Travolta and Stephen Baldwin mentioned as possible big-screen Blagos. Although I doubt Travolta would want to do it, seeing as how all these climactic events happened around the same time his son died.
  • Bill · 11 months ago
    ==The question now is whom Bill shills for next?==
    That is somewhat of a dilemma for me. There will never be another Rod Blagojevich. Well, wait, never say never in Illinois. I'll still post regularly and still root for the underdog or whomever VanMan hates.