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If you think there are no drugs or crime downstate you are blind or stupid. Even towns like Watseka have bad drug problems.
Clean up your own house first and then tell us about ours.
Again your post is misleading, she may have made a reference to a rolling pin when talking to College Republicans, but she also may a more pointed reference during debates. I assume you were not aware of this.
Is anyone else absolutely confused by this quote?
I actually don't think she's making cracks about assault weapons so much as I think she's insane. "I'm the sword of justice"?!?!?! I can't stop laughing.
If gang violence were conducted with rolling pins there would certainly be very many fewer innocent bystanders killed. To say guns have nothing to do with it is ridiculous.
Proven fact; crime rates go down in every state that has the right to carry a firearm.....Now Illinois is the only state in 50 that does not have some abbreviation of the right to carry inacted so now all the criminals can come to Illinois and feel very safe.......
And we know what happened to Howard.
I'm sorry, but JBT is not ready for prime time. Someone in that campaign has to be giving a lot of first time staffers the cold old Evil Eye as the heat intensifies.
I would say she would she's looking for a shoehorn right about now and it's not for her shoes.
I'm not sure what town you live in, but if you think you don't have problems with drugs and guns then your head is wedged somewhere. Chicago has problems with drugs. Schaumburg has problems with drugs. Watseka has problems with guns. I'm sure your town has problems with drugs but you just can't see it.
All those towns are "tough on drugs." You need a heck of a lot more than that to solve the problem.
Your attitude of "We are superior here than in the big bad city" does not acknowledge the problems that you certaintly face, does not solve any problems, and frankly just makes you look like a fool.
To the point: The case in question involved an innocent girl sitting in her house when a bad guy opened fire on a row of houses.
When the bad guy opened fire with his assault weapon and hit a row of houses, it would be your solution to have all of the people grab their own assault weapons in those houses and fire back?
That is the way you want to solve the problem?
And we know what happened to Howard." -Cassandra
Yeah, he runs the Democratic National Committee. Are you suggesting Judy takes Ken Mehlman's job?
Uh, what? Are you saying that people drove in from, say - Centralia? - to shoot that poor girl?
If course it's the people in the neighborhood. No, strike that - it's the *criminals* in the neighborhood!
I suggest that Judy take Ken Mehlman's job.
She would be perfect!
Nothing. Everybody knows JBT is a bit wacky. This was wacky, but not offensive (as opposed to the Zinga comments about searching all middle easterners). The statement will not lose her any votes.
At best, it may take some heat off the new Blago story, but that one has legs. It is isn't going away for something like this.
It wasn't cute, it wasn't homespun, it didn't have kinda downstatesy wisdom that they thought they were shooting for, it DOES NOTHING to help and everything to hurt her; she showed herself to be a little different than your average bear (what a lot of folks call a Kaboob).
'Quoth Topinka "nevermore . . ."
Ok, Kaboobs unite.
Topinka’s remarks must be taken in light of the audience to which she was addressing. In fact she has used a rolling pin analogy many times in the past to show how ridiculous the assault weapons ban wording actually is that Blagojevich is promoting. Her remarks will not actually hurt her chances to get elected because any person that makes a decision based on this would never have voted for her to begin with.
Besides we hear Blagojevich make stupid remarks on an almost daily basis that his spokespeople have to clarify later.
Can we say out of context here? Perhaps Ms. Woods should realize that Democrats have been in control of her city so long, why lash out at JBT? Was she promised a job?
Are you really blaming the media for JBT's screw up?
You sound like Earl Bush: The media ought to write what Judy means and not what she says.
That being said, you Republicans need to start taking responsibility for your own actions.
Your candidate made a strange and dumb statement. Blame her, not the media. I thought you all claimed to be the party of personal responsibility. Apparently not.
There's just nothing worse than a candidate makes who makes a silly statement like that and then lets her blogposse dig an even deeper whole for her when they try to clarify what she meant. Listen to yourselves scramble to diminish the impact of her statement. If it wasn't so bad why do JBT defenders seem to be so angry that we're discussing it.
For my part, a)she had a poor writer (few people I know use, "indeed," like that unless they are rushing onto the battle field to challenge THE dragon or b) the campaign has simply given up trying to help her get her point across in a creative way.
She sure can't do it herself.
Ouch, ouch, ouch ouch. Really, ouch.
Alas, her "not ready for prime time" supporting cast seems unable to rise for this challenge. Pity.
It is a deliberately over emotional response designed for political impact.
Typical Democratic stuff; play the victim, pretend to be offended, attack those who question the offended victim as heartless gun-toting hillbillies.
The whole thing is silly. Blagojevich's friends reminds me of a bunch of pre-schoolers tattling on the kid that said a "bad word".
I don't know where you got the idea I was blaming the media....the PC Police a/k/a the Dems are looking for ways to bash Judy. People act like they're offended by what she said because they want to be offended.
Vanilla Man, thanks for making your point, it's all political hub bub.
Also, everyone of you JBT blogobots is acting like someone who saw their opponent do or say something stupid and then react in sheer horror like it was Rod's fault she got caught.
Own up guys. If we're victims of anything here we're victims of JBTs sense of humor or lack thereof (that joke ain't gettin' it Judy, but I'll bet the business community was relieved that Justice was going to be done).
You guys in Judy's war room helped her dig a hole so deep not even the legendary Wukular could scramble out, eh BH?
The original context, as mentioned above, was in a primary debate where she was trying to dodge a question about banning assault weapons. To appease the gun nuts (I mean that in good way, of course), she opposed the ban, but to appease people who don't hunt with assault rifles (everyone else), she added the rolling pin quip. Basically, you can't ban "assault weapons", she argued, because you can't define what an assault weapon is -- even a rolling pin could be an assault weapon!
Sorry, but unless you sleep with your FOID card under your pillow, you know that's an absurd comment. Blago's ads have rightly slammed her for it.
The correct answer for her would've been to move on and to never, never, never mention the words "rolling" and "pin" in the same sentence again. For some reason, she can't help herself, and she's invited yet another round of ridicule.
She'll never close the gap if she can't keep her foot out of her mouth.
As far as "tubing" a campaign, it means to kill it off, or thereabouts. It's probably slang from my teens.
Whether or not I was allowed to carry weapons around, I cannot conceive of WANTING to. In any altercation, two guns being involved can only be twice as bad as one gun being involved.
Mad as a March hare.
That's right, the legendary Wukular at 50 whole chickens, feathers and all. One gulp I tell you.
Both of the candidates have made less than favorable statements on various topics but it is how their opponents attempt to use them that shed light on the integrity of who you’re up against. Poor Jim Brady, as you refer to him, is no innocent bystander in this exploitation of the anguished mother whose daughter was recently killed. This group has been doing this for many years and then after they get their press releases they completely forget about the person that they have just used and move on to the next piece of exploitation fodder.
Its not her statement that is so damning but the despicable way her opponents are attempting to use it against her by sacrificing the emotions of an anguished mother for purely political purposes. Does Topinka probably wish she hadn’t stated it in that particular manner? I would image the answer is yes. Is this one statement of paramount importance? Absolutely not, get over it.
And Way North Sider, let me let you in on a little secret you may not know: SHE doesn't know it's a stupid statement--there it is and there you have it. Gnawed off her own nose to spite her face on that one . . .
Hicks, flip'er a quarter.
Please stop with the complete garbage about the mother being "exploited" as if the Democrats were somehow taking advantage of her.
Was it the mother's idea to allow these guns on the streets?
Was it the mother's idea to allow the manufacture of weapons capable of putting multiple rounds through walls of a house to kill her poor daughter?
No, it was the dingbat gun nuts in the ILGOP and the ILNRA who prevented us from having reasonable gun control laws.
Nobody is "exploiting the mother." Instead, we have a bunch of blowhards here who will not allow a mother to express her views on the weapons that killed her daughter.
If you don't want to hear the cries of the mother, then do something to get rid of the weapons.
Either way, stop claiming that a mother expressing her views about her own daughter's death is somehow being "exploited."
Another interesting point about JBT's statement it that it is incoherent.
What in the world is she talking about comparing a rolling pin to any gun?
Seriously -- What is she referencing? Does anyone have the slighest clue what she MEANT to say?
To clarify your erroneous observations. I never once said the Democrats were exploiting the woman. I said the Brady group was doing the exploiting. Unless you assume all Democrats are anti-gun zealots like yourself.
The Brady Bunch exploited her grief by actively seeking her out so she could lash out in her grief so they could use it to make their own point. The Brady group has shown this tactic time and again its nothing new or un-documented.
Rich does not want us to argue pro or anti-gun platforms so I will refrain from enlightening you to the falicies of your 'rounds through a wall' sentiments. We'll leave that for another day's blog topic. Have a wonderful afternoon.
the blago huggers are touchy? I thought just the opposite. the blagohaters are so used to the gov getting whacked that they got their panties all in a bunch because topinka's taking some well deserved heat today -- not that she hasn't said some really stupid things before as well, but things haven't stuck as easily to her before, which is why I assume rich posted this today. it should serve as a wake up call to her failed campaign.
lol!
People on all sides of the gun debate can unite on the truth that Topinka is too nutty for office.
I would say she embarrasses the 2nd Amendment people most of all.
The anti gunners will try to make this into a big deal. It is nothing more than small ripples in a tea cup.
By the way, people - look at the various websites that list murder rates and find out just what types of objects are used to kill people. You would be surprised what constitutes a murder weapon.
Assault weapons is an inflamatory designation given to a type of rifle that has the appearance of a fully automatic military weapon.
Possession of a fully automatic weapon is a federal crime. The average gangster isn't going to have such a firearm.
If she really wanted to get downstate folksy she should have said"I'm going to warsh that varmint and hang him up by his ears with clothespins to dry" but do there really have to be separate messages for downstate voters? I know a lot of intelligent people who have grown up in these small parts, garshdawrnit
"I’m the sword of justice and I’m going to cut him to pieces."
Alan Keyes, we're sorry. You weren't so bad afterall.
You think arming yourself is the answer? Great. Why don't you and your frat buddies pack up the heat, move to Englewood, and we'll see how long you last. I bet you wet your pants the first time you're out after dark, concealed weapon or no.
It's easy to talk tough when you're on a college campus 200 miles from the shooting gallery. Or 10,000 miles from Bagdad.
What next, a rape victim calling Blago on his testicular verility comment? Lets get to the issues. There are still 50% of Illinois voters who don't realize yet another Illinois Governer is approaching indictment.
You are right, pass all the restrictive firearm laws you want for the liberal cess pool Cook County, but leave the rest of us downstate folks alone with your gun grabbing laws.But that's the problem, what you think is good for Cook County you also think is good for the rest of the state. And that my friend is wrong.
Those of us who are gun violence victims are merely allying with other victims and empowering each other and supporting each other in speaking out publicly in matters that we care deeply about and know more about that anyone else in the nation. Almost two-thirds of the state's Brady chapter Million Mom March members are gun violence victims. Illinois' own Jim Brady took a bullet meant for the President of the United States.
When we express outrage about a social condition how can you, "Brady Exploitation", question our common sense alliances with each other to express that? I have spent much of the past months with Deanna Woods, Siretha Woods, and the Reed families who we network with as fellow victims. They have asked for our help in their neighborhoods. And I have been at their side in their churches these last months, in their marches, in their school meetings, in their living rooms, at their gravesides, at their memorial events. Where have you been? How can you question the tears of frustration that little Siretha's mother expressed to me this morning when she heard what Ms Topinka said. Her exact words to me "That really upsets me!"
One should not joke about using assault weapons against people, and most especially not someone who wants to hold the highest office in our state in a campaign speech.
This kind of humor is not funny at all, Ms. Topinka, and it shows a lack of good judgment to make jokes like this at victims expense.
Deanna Woods threw her body over the children in her living room at the birthday party when the bullets came in her window, as she said, "they kept coming and coming" (I had to explain to her what a high capacity magazine was - one of the defining features of an assault weapon - the weapon in her case was a Tec-9 or similar weapon). She knows what it is to be under fire from these weapons. She wants to do whatever she can to rid her neighborhoods of these awful military style weapons. She is willing to re-live painful memories in order to do this. She is nothing but heroic for that.
Please do not question her motives. Please do not question mine. It is beneath us all, just as Ms. Topinka's remarks were.
It would be best if Ms. Topinka would just apologize for making an insensitive remark.
I would agree that Treasurer Topinka owes an apology and I hope it is forthcoming.
Perhaps someone could opine about the apparent failure of single party controlled courts, law enforcement, and State's attorney's offices in Cook County to make a dent in these hideous crimes in their decades of control, no offense to the hard-working street cops who are as big a target of these thugs as the residents...