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Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Bookworm — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:00:11 -0000

I may be getting ahead of myself here, but I'm trying to figure out what this bodes for a possible budget/tax hike vote.

On the one hand, now that Lisa is not running for governor, MJM no longer has an interest in making Quinn look bad. Therefore he may soon decide that letting his members vote for an income tax hike isn't such a bad idea after all.

On the other hand, now that Lisa isn't running for governor, MJM doesn't have as much motivation to help up the state's fiscal mess before she takes office, and he also realizes Democratic candidates aren't going to have her coattails to ride on. Therefore, he will be more determined than ever to prevent or postpone a tax hike vote.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

LynnS — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:24:41 -0000

3rd Gen. Chicago Native,

Lots of folks downstate reading MotherTribune and using the interweb. The Nicarico case will be a huge millstone around Brickhead Joe's neck.

We may be hillbillies, but we tend to have issues with innocent people spending years on Death Row for murders they didn't commit.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

anon — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:46:18 -0000

Great move for Lisa Madigan. She obviously keeps a job she enjoys. Three predictions...LM wins re-election. Pat Quinn easily beats Dan Hynes(IFDA Scandal), and MJM gains four House Seats and has a Super Majority. Call his troops "madagoons" but they will NOT be fighting 2 fronts--Dem House Candidates and a Lisa Madigan for Governor Campaign. Clearly the Best Political Operation in the state will be running on all cylinders. In a deep recession it does not appear this budget will have Incumbent Dem. State Reps. having voted for a huge tax increase. Oh...fourth prediction...Cross gone in 2010 as Republican Leader.

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Fed UP!!!!!!!!!! — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:43:41 -0000

Good for Lisa! Glad to see that some politicians do what's best for family and not just themselves! She's a female though-so a little bit smarter! She does a great job and is needed in that position. Would have been a good governor-not put up with what's going on right now-but can't blame her for her decision. She's thinking about family-WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

wordslinger — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:36:35 -0000

Don't really understand the Lisa M. /Sarah P. comparisons.

Lisa M. is serving out her term and running for re-election. Sarah P. is resigning and won't run for a second term.

Lisa M. is staying put. I suspect Sarah P is going to make a some big-time money and spend a lot of time in the Lower 48 pursuing her national ambitions, something that's not very easy to do as the full-time governor of Alaska (it's very far away).

The one thing they might have in common is that there's nothing sinister about either move.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Rob_N — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:08:18 -0000

LCD, 2 points...

1. What you're discussing re L Madigan's decision could also be viewed as due diligence by some. That due diligence would naturally include conversations with those in power who may be able to help (or hinder) her in her decision. She was weighing all her options.

2. Palin has recently admitted that she was considering not running for re-election as early as last autumn (during her campaign for VP). That's not exactly "very sudden".

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Rob_N — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:04:44 -0000

Phocion,

I never said that Nyberg didn't call him a coward, did I?

Rather I included the caveat that my own search (ie, "research" as you call it) was quick and admitted it may not have been complete but, like you in your own research, I could not find an instance of Nyberg actually using the word "coward". You've now provided a few quotes from Nyberg to the contrary which is appreciated.

Moreover, I was pointing out that in general your first post on the topic (whining about people being mean to Mark Kirk) mentioned nothing of just why Nyberg and others were saying Kirk seemed to be displaying cowardice regarding the Senate race -- chiefly that he would only run in that race if Lisa Madigan did not.

Kirk's direct actions literally minutes after the Madigan news broke this morning would appear to bolster the argument those earlier commenters, including Nyberg, were making.

The implication is he may also feel he needs permission from Lisa Madigan before brushing his teeth for bed, etc... ;) (Yes, that's a joke!)

What are you so worked up about?

Despite your complaint I didn't call you a liar. I pointed out the incompleteness of your curt complaint. (Working on my proftisms there)

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

lake county democrat — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:53:13 -0000

Rich -- just saw your last post now on her comments from her office. Point taken.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

lake county democrat — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:52:32 -0000

Leaving exact words aside, I think my point remains: Madigan has never discouraged the widespread assumption she was running for higher office -- just traveling to D.C. and the talk with the White House belies such disinterest. Something, like with Palin, appears to have happened very quickly.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Rich Miller — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:52:11 -0000

lcd, every single conversation i've ever had with anyone in lmadigan's office, including her, always included the major caveat that she could run for reelection. just because something isn't mentioned in a story doesn't mean it wasn't discussed.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

lake county democrat — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:45:17 -0000

Rich -- I think here's one example:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/s...

When you say you're considering one race but more focused on a second, that pretty much says you're not interested in an unnamed third that nobody is even asking about.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

phocion — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:02:09 -0000

Well, Rob N. On Monday, June 22 Nyberg was in his usual rare form in several comments bashing Kirk, as well as his military service. Here are some relevant highlights to support my contention about what Nyberg called Kirk:

"...I think Kirk is a media creation who lacks principles, courage and knowledge of policy..."

And

"Kirk is afraid to run against Lisa Madigan."

So, Nyberg said Kirk lacks courage and that he is afraid. Sounds a lot like calling someone a coward to me. Next time, do your own research, and careful how you characterize things. I don't lie about what other people say.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Conservative Republican — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:53:57 -0000

Lisa runs for reelection.

On further thought, I think this is huge. Lisa and Daddy have concluded that 2010 ain't gonna be much of a Democratic year. Better to hunker down and keeps your arms around the boodle you already have within your grasp.

With this implicit concession, Republicans should take heart.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Rob_N — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:49:43 -0000

Excuse me, I shouldn't say "planning" ... more like "pondering" based on what I've read

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Rob_N — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:46:20 -0000

Dart had been planning to run for Cook County President. This is the first I'm seeing talk of governor.... Somebody planting something?

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Amy — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:41:52 -0000

Dart people, if tom dart is truly thinking about running for governor, please urge him to think again. dart and quinn
were friendly over the years so dart's weak points are not
a mystery.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Niles Township — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:36:31 -0000

I hear Sheriff Tom Dart is planning to run against Gov. Quinn. Makes sense if Lisa Madigan is no longer running.

For as much as I have issues with Quinn, I just don't see how Dart could do much damage to him in a primary. Also, I always thought Dart and Quinn were friendly over the years.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Hoosier Guy? — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:35:13 -0000

Seems like a another well thought out decision by the AG. To me it is just a reaffirmation that she dictates her own agenda and doesn't get sidetracked by the hype. I think others will see this too, and will respect this decision as one of many in her narrative of independence.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Rob_N — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:14:35 -0000

Phocion,

Got any links to what you're talking about, specifically?

IIRC some posters have alluded to the idea that Mark Kirk is a coward because he was waiting on Lisa Madigan rather than simply having the guts to declare for a race on his own gumption... and Rep. Kirk's near-immediate call arounds today saying he's in the Senate race now that Madigan officially is not illustrate that point.

And that's obviously different than simply implying he's a coward because he wasn't declaring for Senate and instead staying put in an incumbent House seat.

But nice try at revising the past few weeks of easily verified history.

And, to your reference of Carl Nyberg, a quick search (quick, not complete) couldn't find any posts by Carl calling Kirk a coward though he did call him a "partisan hack" a month ago.

Perhaps that is the thread of which your memories have grown fuzzy.

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Call me Enola, cuz I'm droppin — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:03:17 -0000

Lisa Madigan will successfully serve as Attorney General for now, but will be our the first woman President of the United States. Though many posters here are shortsighted (Mayor Lisa? come on), Rahm Emmanuel is orchestrating for the long term.

Lisa Madigan is proving that she is independent, principled, and strong-willed, that she will not be strong-armed by Daddy Madigan, Rahm Emmanuel, Barack Obama who all want to use her credibility and smarts. Unlike Palin, she is fully committed to a long term job at the AG office.

Rock and roll, Lisa!

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Dan Heff — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:45:02 -0000

I hear Sheriff Tom Dart is planning to run against Gov. Quinn. Makes sense if Lisa Madigan is no longer running.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

Mighty M. Mouse — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:40:39 -0000

=== Will County Woman asks...
...do you honestly think Mike Madigan just found out this morning like the rest of us that lisa intends to stay AG? Are you serious???? So, the claim that Mike Madigan was trying to hurt Quinn to make his daughter look good has no validity. hopefully you, others and particularly the chicago media can get off of this now. please.===

No, I don't think the Speaker just found out this morning. I think MJM found out immediately, which would have probably been in the last 24-72 hours, because that's how long it's been since I think Lisa FINALLY made up her mind. And since I think Lisa decided in the last 24-72 hours, I think MJM could well have been withholding any "victories" from Gov. Quinn, at least until Lisa told him she had finally, positively and irrevocably made up her mind about what what she was going to do.

Re: L. Madigan to stay put

phocion — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:33:57 -0000

Regular commenter here Carl Nyberg called Mark Kirk a coward because he was considering not giving up his safe seat for a Senate run. Would Carl Nyberg call Lisa M a "coward" because of this decision? I didn't think so. Best not call out one side for something that happens on both sides of the aisle. And best wishes to our current and future AG...and her family, too.

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Third Generation Chicago Nativ — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:14:54 -0000

Not a bit surprized about Madigan, she has a nice campaign chest, lots of support, she's the incumbant, why not? She will have more experience with another term to prove herself, should she go on to a higher office(assuming she is re-elected, but that looks like a slam dunk)

Birkett has got to be a nervous wreck, the Chicago Democrats don't like him at all. He will get the DuPage County vote, and the a good chunk of the downstate vote, but that won't win him the AG.

Quin must be relieved. He is still on the sympathy trail of how he is cleaning up a mess. (ya, like he had no hand in it what-so-ever cough,cough)But everytime you see him on the news he is doing the wo'ers me look at what mess I have to deal with, I am poor Gov Quinn who has to deal with this.

As far as Toddler Stroger goes, Danny Davis jumping in the race must have him nervous.
There are too many better choices for CC Pres. now.
I wonder if Bill Beavers will get re-elected only to do a annoint his daughter Darcel his Cook County Comish post (kindof like he did his Alderman ward when he got Comish, you know the CC Comish post just like Bobbie Steele did for son Robert Steele (now in Mom's Comish post)

I don't think Burris has a chance, any strong Democrat will blow him away in that race.

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nice kid — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:09:33 -0000

Lake County, it is a truly absurd comparison. And, any speculation that Madigan has a skeleton that is about to emerge is equally unfounded. Such a skeleton could damage her AG bid just as easily as a Gov. bid. If she was walking away from office under a cloud of mystery with total uncertainty to what she was going to do, THEN you would have justifiable speculation regarding a skeleton, and you would have a better comparison. The original poster was comparing apples to artichokes.