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It is easy to look at the place and blame the name. However, if you have quality products, fair prices, and well trained staff that should not be an issue.
basically, the name change made us shop online more (coldwater creek for my wife, etc) for goods we used to buy at the downtown field's. if macy's wants to be in chicago, it should find a location on michigan ave, not state street...
Cheap, tacky.
Haven't been back.
Weren't really planning on going there for the holidays either. We didn't usually do holiday shopping at Field's, but we're less inclined to do it at Macy*s.
If we wanted to go to a New York chain, there are already plenty of Nordstroms, etc in the area -- and they're much nicer to boot.
In fact, my wife still blows the occasional raspberry when a Macy*s commercial comes on.
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Skeeter, I accept and agree with your point about quality products, fair prices and well trained staff. I think Field's was slipping on all three points and had been for some time. We saw no immediate changes to that status quo when we were there after the name change a few months ago. JohnR's "two words" sum it up.
If you are giving a pass to Macy's because they are a 'nice' stored compared to Walmart, you are simply a rationalizing snob.
It was more than just a name change. Macy's went from what little exclusivity they held in the market to no exclusivity. You can't charge profitable prices for high end merchandise from stores you find in every shopping district!
Macy's blew it two ways. They cheapened their image, while at the same time destroyed the loyalties from the stores they took over.
They think they have a "Chicago problem"? They have a marketing problem that is revealing itself in Chicago. Leave it to their stupidity and arrogance to think there is something wrong with us.
They JCPenney-ed themselves. I buy my everyday clothes at JCPenney and respect their tradition and culture. But I used to shop at Fields, Bloomingdales and Nordstroms for my special and business clothes. I shop high end for Christmas. Macy's was NEVER on my short list because they NEVER had a decent image to justify their prices.
We would shop at Carson's before Macy's.
So, just what is Macy's now? There is no exclusivity behind the brand. There is little quality behind the brand. No one tells you they are going to shop there, because it doesn't mean anything.
Watching Fields and other regional department stores become Macy's is like seeing a slew of old Cadillac Cimarrons, or Cateras. Fake. Unauthentic. Mass produced mediocrity.
Macy's has a bigger problem than just loyal Chicagoans. The Chicagoans that are not shopping at Macy's are the ones that know the difference between bling and jewelry. We don't shop for bling.
The Field family has not owned the place for about 20 years.
It was a part of the Dayton Hudson chain for a long time, and now it is part of the Federated chain.
It hasn't been locally owned in a long time.
If you like the store before the name change, you should like it now.
If, like me, you thought it was a beautiful building but didn't see a point of shopping there, that also shouldn't change.
The real loss was when the Field family sold. That was long ago though.
If you boycott the place just because of the name, you are just hurting the employees. If they have quality merchandise for a fair price (and I don't think they do) buy it. If not, go someplace else.
But all this talk about the name is just ridiculous.
Too crowded a floor display, but a lot of the same brands that Field's used to have. The thing is that consumers really don't see much difference with a lot of these large retailers (and there are so many specialty shops, known as category killers, that the large stores compete with), so there's been a ton of consolidation.
Anywho. Kept the account when it switched over from Field's to Macy's, but still have to recommend Nordstrom as the five star store if you want a large store environment. Best customer service in town, best floor plan of all the large specialty stores, and yes, you can find reasonable price-points (some of their private label stuff, for instance).
Different crowd. People are more polite. Service is A+.
Field's went downhill after they ended up with Dayton-Hudson, then Target (ugh, horrible changes when Target Corp. took over), and then sort of tanked from there on out.
Should be interesting to see how Macy's competes in this area, especially with competition from Nordies and Bloomies.
I have very purposefully refused to shop at Field's/Macy's since they announced the name change. I don't know what Macy's in Chicago looks like, and I'm not curious.
I bet the Macy's people put ketchup on their hot dogs, too.
Even with the mediocre service people who made their purchases could at least buy some nostalgia. Federated has only enraged longtime consumers of that nostalgia. Just anecdotally, I know of at least three generations of women that have cut up their Macy's cards and sworn never to go. The changeover to Macy's has just hastened the death of any sort of mid-market department store in Chicagoland.
Department stores are dinosaurs in their last death throes. Consolidation is the last bid for any semblance of survival.
The Internet and specialty stores are where people shop now. I'd much rather do my X-Mas shopping sitting at home, on my computer, in my skivvies, picking my toes than trudging around a hot, stuffy big box. Of course, with Capitol Fax open in a window as well...
BTW, they kept the Lord & Taylor name, so there should have been some way to keep Marshall Field's.
Famous Barr was a late/recent addition to Spfld, and now its a Macy's too.
What ya all should be sad about is the closing of Carsons. gee, i'll miss those ribs. ;)
Right. That's why the specialty stores, like Nordies, will survive. There's something distinct about the service and the atmosphere that sets such stores apart from the ones that are just one big bunch of individual departments full of stuff you can find at a category killer specialty store at any suburban strip mall.
Gee, maybe the service will get better since they're all dying now, huh? lol
Chuckle chuckle. They train 'em that way on purpose, so they can increase sales.
The goal is to make women look like complete streetwalkers so they sell more products all at one time. In reality, you need some blush to brighten up your cheeks and maybe play up ONE feature (eyes?) at a time, but not the whole Las Vegas showgirl thing.
They can't sell multiple shades of something more neutral, because women only need one. Hence, the sales and marketing plan is designed to convince clueless twits that eight different shades of eyeshadow will look great if only they were "blended" well (snorts with laughter).
Putting that look on floor #1 is often what ruins the upscale image of some of the higher end stores, but I guess it sells products to silly people.
I don't think I can bring my Germ. Shep. into Macy's. However, Nordstrom's on Michigan Ave. welcomes him. On a cold day when we need to get out of the house but don't really want to just walk around outside, my wife and I will often wander to Nordstrom's with the dog. It is a great way to stretch our legs and my wife and I can also get our shopping in. We've spent a lot of money in places that we went into specifically because the dog was allowed in. A walk around the neighborhood turns into some major purchases.
Macy's is not from here, and I don't think they understand the neighborhood yet.
Marhall Field (the man) helped build the Shedd Aquarium, the Merchandise Mart, the Field Museum, and the ulitimate department store in the world - Marshall Field's. No one can take ownership of that. That was Marshall Field's hard work and legacy - not Macy's.
Macy's will not last.
www.fieldsischicago.
I don't live in Chicago, but I go about twice a year. Marshall Field's was the last of the great full-line, mid-range department stores. If you wanted a $20 shirt or a $200 one, a $10 set of wine glasses or a $1,000 set, you could get it. And the sales staff treated you the with the same courtesy no matter what you were shopping for.
Macy's has dropped Field's better brands and replaced them with their high-margin, low quality store brands. Their "improvements" are all designed to eliminate customer service - who needs price scanners and shopping carts when you've got an attentive salesperson?
The traditions and practices they've dropped are irritating, and the ones they've kept seem usurped by conquering hordes. There's nothing positive or pleasant about Macy's running a store at 111 N State Street. Or anywhere else.
The Macy's where I live have unattentive cashiers who will only venture from behind the register for a smoke break or to check out the clearance racks to see what they can buy with their discount. Their selection is shoddy, prices are higher (it's funny when the same thing is cheaper at Bloomingdale's!), and service is bad. Why would I visit Chicago to see all this when I don't want to see it in my own back yard?
They sent me a gold card, and since I closed my Lord & Taylor account when I noticed that "The Signature of American Style" had Made in China stuff that costs way too much considering it was made practically from slave labor. It is always good to keep at least one store charge card around.
How bad is it gonna get? Hopefully better if they listen to the public about what changes they should make?