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Why is the power concentrated with Madigan?
I know there's been talk for weeks that the House Dems simply want to put off voting on a tax hike until November so that they know whether or not they will have primary opposition before they cast their vote.
But, what if that strategy backfires and most of them end up being challenged in the primary so they STILL can't bring themselves to vote for a tax hike? Then what happens?
Remember how Emil Jones' attempt to keep the Senate from voting against a pay raise until after Election Day backfired, big time, last year? I have a feeling MJM could be making an equally big mistake this time.
Apparently the lives of their constituents affected by the budget do not matter!
I cannot believe that this whole session is not somehow orchestrated, tin-hatism maybe. I wonder what we would have benn going through without the stimulus money propping up some of the budget. I guess we will find out next year.
I think Bill may be right. =Messing with Mikey will not end well for him=.
To bad the rest of us are the gloves in this fight. We have hands shoved up our a$$%&!#s, are covered with sweat and can't see a darned thing.
SNAFU, TARFU and FUBAR - take your pick.
You are right about Madigan. He wants all the power and truth be known he will probably endorse a republican so he can be the man. Oh wait why do that he has all the power now. They are all to blame. I can assure you I will not vote for Poe or Bomke this go around.
Google is your friend. Read Section 9.
http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con4.htm
Did he veto the Capital Bill as well as the half-baked budget too; or is he sitting on the Capital Bill until after the 14th?
"If the Governor does not approve the bill, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the house in which it originated."
Do they have the votes in the Senate, or is Cullerton planning to make a comment at some point?
"If the Governor does not approve the bill, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the house in which it originated."
Do they have the votes in the Senate?
So - balance the damn budget and get out of our lives for a while!
Notice, he didn't say WHICH government.
Wyoming, maybe?
If the Senate fails to override the veto, Madigan has the option of trying to revive that bonding gimmick as an alternative to tax increases. But he would be wrong to do so -- we have a structural deficit, not just a recession heavy demand on services deficit.
Pass the income tax increase at 5%, with a reduction to 4 1/2% after two years. The extra money goes to eliminating the current backlog of indebtedness and beginning to shore up the pension funds. After the first year, start restructuring reimbursement rates for community based human services to be closer to actual cost, and try to tuck a half bilion a year into a "Rainy Day" fund.
I know, too logical...
Thanks for reminding us that the human services budget was 50%, not 70%. We have got to keep clear on this.
Plenty of people have proposed the reasonable plan you have (or something similar). This isn't about the budget, it is about who controls what. MJM is shooting the moon - going all in.
I wonder if any dems in the house are sensing any weakness yet?
Better watch out, Quinn. The Speaker is gonna get all Yoda on your ass now!
Instead Madigan has watched all the same old faces parade past him since Quinn took over, watched the same people making the same decisions and listened to the same tired excuses.
If this gets to Joe's grandma or Jane's aunt Velma, maybe, just maybe, we'll see a shift in the House Dem Caucus/House GOP Caucus positions. Otherwise, the polling must be showing that not a lot of Illinoisans are clamoring for a tax hike and more spending for "corrupt" government.
Then again, maybe I'm not seeing this too clearly either.
Is it really what it seems, because his members are facing re-election?
Or is it more Machiavellian -- he has an agenda and this is his opportunity to ruin Pat Quinn and flex his muscle?
Why is the Governor insisting on more $, if there isn't the political will for it, and he doesn't have the political base to support it?
Why do we even have a dang Gubernator, if Madigan is running the show?
I guess it could be worse, we could be New York.
Quinn is not a leader and Madigan believes himself to be king this is going to get ugly/funny. Remember though the longer and more screwed up goverment gets the more people will be looking for a change (Lisa). I think shes hiding in Dick Cheaneys undisclosed location, waiting for the smoke to clear.
I had to laugh at your comment. I haven't been of sound mind for 6 years now!! Anyway, 6 of our 50 are private pay. I could hold spots for the private pays but some money is better than the empty spots that bring in no money. Fact is, if people have enough money to pay for daycare around here, the mom stays home or as had happened to our other private pays, they are losing their jobs....sad state of affairs all around. At 76% subsidized we are at the mercy of the state. Not how I intended it when I wrote the business plan, but I don't have the heart to turn away someone who WANTS to work.
Maybe he doesn't want to prove ol' Blago right....
Well, point well-taken from a logic standpoint, but gee, what businesses would we have left?
Let's see. Nothing in a TIF district. No auto industry, no banking industry, very little health care (all these industries, generally (no, not in every single case)) have relied on tax-payer money to some extent or other for their operations.
His strategy is to be unchallenged in many races so that he only has to fund and man a few campaigns with union knee-breakers and patronage workers.
If people are so upset that they challenge each of his candidates in the Dem Primary and the General election, even with poorly funded candidates who aren't particularly strong, he'll have a lot of trouble coming up with the bucks to fight off the challengers and ALSO have plenty of dough to help out Lisa.
The non-profits that are being cut can't accomplish this, but the "tea party" folks just may be able to fill the Dem Party Primary and GOP ballot slots.
You wouldn't believe how much a candidate spends even against an outspoken opponent with no money or organization.
I know. I've done it.
Left to his own devices, like a lot of bungalow guys around Midway, he'll make do with what he's got, and expect others to do the same.
Sponsored by Citizens determined not to re-elect Madigan....or his silent relative. Illinois voters are not interested in a two for the price of one Governor or Senator.... Our states name is Illinois....and the Capitol is in Springfield....not Madiganville.
I wonder if the legislators read capitol fax....nawwww they are so out of touch with reality,...what was I thinking!