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Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

CircularFiringSquad — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:13:37 -0000

looks like madigan is on the right track

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

No 2 for 1 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:41:42 -0000

"I find regrettable some of MADIGAN's remarks".

Sponsored by Citizens determined not to re-elect Madigan....or his silent relative. Illinois voters are not interested in a two for the price of one Governor or Senator.... Our states name is Illinois....and the Capitol is in Springfield....not Madiganville.

I wonder if the legislators read capitol fax....nawwww they are so out of touch with reality,...what was I thinking!

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

wordslinger — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:42:47 -0000

Madigan is a conservative in the true sense of the word. If his caucus insists on a tax increase, he'll go for it, if he thinks in their interest.

Left to his own devices, like a lot of bungalow guys around Midway, he'll make do with what he's got, and expect others to do the same.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

PalosParkBob — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0000

What matters to Madigan is that the McKenna/Topinka Republicans will lose control of what base they have remaining and perhaps grass roots Republicans will be so disgusted that EVERY Dem Rep will have an opponent in 2010.

His strategy is to be unchallenged in many races so that he only has to fund and man a few campaigns with union knee-breakers and patronage workers.

If people are so upset that they challenge each of his candidates in the Dem Primary and the General election, even with poorly funded candidates who aren't particularly strong, he'll have a lot of trouble coming up with the bucks to fight off the challengers and ALSO have plenty of dough to help out Lisa.

The non-profits that are being cut can't accomplish this, but the "tea party" folks just may be able to fill the Dem Party Primary and GOP ballot slots.

You wouldn't believe how much a candidate spends even against an outspoken opponent with no money or organization.

I know. I've done it.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

fed up — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:15:16 -0000

Mike TIF districts are the biggest scam going, and every industry does get gov money in some ways. I said relying on it as your only source of income is a bad idea. Steve I too think anything to help someone get off welfare and go to work is a good thing. My point is to rely on goverment handouts is a bad idea. Its like having all your 401k in your company stock if your company goes belly up your screwed. Diversify and yes have some govt susidized kids but also diversify and have other options. If you depend on any one entity for your whole income you are setting yourself up to fail. Its like if Ill suddenly had good goverment Rich's traffic would plummet and he would need to find other areas of interest to draw viewers. I think Rich is safe for a long time.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

Mike Ins — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:46:26 -0000

Fed Up

Well, point well-taken from a logic standpoint, but gee, what businesses would we have left?

Let's see. Nothing in a TIF district. No auto industry, no banking industry, very little health care (all these industries, generally (no, not in every single case)) have relied on tax-payer money to some extent or other for their operations.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

618er — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:38:06 -0000

Why is the all powerful Oz (Madigan) blocking an income tax increase â€“

Maybe he doesn't want to prove ol' Blago right....

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Mom to 50 — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:07:32 -0000

Fed Up-
I had to laugh at your comment. I haven't been of sound mind for 6 years now!! Anyway, 6 of our 50 are private pay. I could hold spots for the private pays but some money is better than the empty spots that bring in no money. Fact is, if people have enough money to pay for daycare around here, the mom stays home or as had happened to our other private pays, they are losing their jobs....sad state of affairs all around. At 76% subsidized we are at the mercy of the state. Not how I intended it when I wrote the business plan, but I don't have the heart to turn away someone who WANTS to work.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

steve schnorf — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:11:13 -0000

fed up, the state subsidizes day care for working poor parents. No child care, no job. No job, back on welfare. Pretty simple math. As a Republican, I believe people are better off working than on welfare, so I can't be so stupid as to oppose the things that let people take their first, minimum wage, job.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

ahoy — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:06:21 -0000

I'm starting to think the best thing that could happen to our state is a complete government shut down. Maybe once the house has burned to the ground we'll finally realize we need to rebuild it... or maybe not.

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fed up — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:00:48 -0000

Mom of 50 any buisness that relies on goverment handouts to operate really isnt all that stable. you provide daycare to low income children noble yes sound buisness debatable. Maybe get a few clients that can afford daycare on their own dime.

Quinn is not a leader and Madigan believes himself to be king this is going to get ugly/funny. Remember though the longer and more screwed up goverment gets the more people will be looking for a change (Lisa). I think shes hiding in Dick Cheaneys undisclosed location, waiting for the smoke to clear.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

SouthernGirl — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:54:39 -0000

Why is the all powerful Oz (Madigan) blocking an income tax increase --

Is it really what it seems, because his members are facing re-election?

Or is it more Machiavellian -- he has an agenda and this is his opportunity to ruin Pat Quinn and flex his muscle?

Why is the Governor insisting on more $, if there isn't the political will for it, and he doesn't have the political base to support it?

Why do we even have a dang Gubernator, if Madigan is running the show?

I guess it could be worse, we could be New York.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

CrossMeEyes — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:38:05 -0000

If Quinn would have shown a little mustard and dumped a chunk of people when he took over--like a bunch of the crew members from the Good Ship Blago who didn't slink away--he might have just shown enough good faith to make Mike think he was a man with whom he could do business.

Instead Madigan has watched all the same old faces parade past him since Quinn took over, watched the same people making the same decisions and listened to the same tired excuses.

If this gets to Joe's grandma or Jane's aunt Velma, maybe, just maybe, we'll see a shift in the House Dem Caucus/House GOP Caucus positions. Otherwise, the polling must be showing that not a lot of Illinoisans are clamoring for a tax hike and more spending for "corrupt" government.

Then again, maybe I'm not seeing this too clearly either.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

phocion — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:30:33 -0000

Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinnâ€™s remarks

Better watch out, Quinn. The Speaker is gonna get all Yoda on your ass now!

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Segatari — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:30:17 -0000

Capitol View - income tax increase to 4.5% will only cover $4.5 billion of the $11.6 billion deficit. I assume each half percent will add $1.5 billion which leaves almost a $6 billion hole left to fill. So in reality taxes would have to be raised to 7-8% to cover the full deficit. And that will never pass.

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

Central IL Guy — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:18:17 -0000

Yes, Quinn's efforts to govern have been feeble at times, but Madigan has been a major contributor to the financial mess we find ourselves in. No more gimmicks, it's time to face the music. Quinn should find more areas to streamline or cut, and Madigan should negotiate in good faith on a tax increase, or get out of the way. I'm beginning to like term limits more and more.

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dupage dan — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:05:38 -0000

Captiol View,

Thanks for reminding us that the human services budget was 50%, not 70%. We have got to keep clear on this.

Plenty of people have proposed the reasonable plan you have (or something similar). This isn't about the budget, it is about who controls what. MJM is shooting the moon - going all in.

I wonder if any dems in the house are sensing any weakness yet?

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Irish — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:03:01 -0000

If not term limits then leadership positions should be a statewide vote.

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Capitol View — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:54:44 -0000

It's a 50% human services budget, not a 70% -- the Senate rejected borrowing to meet pension needs so that we could spend those dollars on operating costs. Bond money going towards operating costs is never a good idea.

If the Senate fails to override the veto, Madigan has the option of trying to revive that bonding gimmick as an alternative to tax increases. But he would be wrong to do so -- we have a structural deficit, not just a recession heavy demand on services deficit.

Pass the income tax increase at 5%, with a reduction to 4 1/2% after two years. The extra money goes to eliminating the current backlog of indebtedness and beginning to shore up the pension funds. After the first year, start restructuring reimbursement rates for community based human services to be closer to actual cost, and try to tuck a half bilion a year into a "Rainy Day" fund.

I know, too logical...

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

George — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:53:30 -0000

â€œthereâ€™s enough money to manage the governmentâ€

Notice, he didn't say WHICH government.

Wyoming, maybe?

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

Retired IDOC — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:42:08 -0000

So 1000 lay offs in corrections. Did they pass the bill to release the convicts early? Close all the ATC and Work camps?

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

Anon — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:37:31 -0000

I agree with CommonDenominator @ 2:59. Most writers on these comments seem to forgive everything MJM does and seem to hiss loudly when actions move against the direction he is trying to go. Please explain.

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BigDog — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:35:23 -0000

We should have seven year-olds in these positions. More would get accomplished.

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VanillaMan — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:33:01 -0000

â€œthereâ€™s enough money to manage the governmentâ€

So - balance the damn budget and get out of our lives for a while!

Re: Madigan: I find regrettable some of Quinn’s remarks

Some Guy — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:31:07 -0000

Sorry about the double post...Rich, can you delete one of them, along with this message? Thanks.