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Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

GJB.@YAHOO.COM — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:06:52 -0000

GO ALEXIUS, YOU DESERVE IT DESPITE THE LIES, THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAIL,

GAIL
CHICAGO

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Disappointed — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:19:54 -0000

I generally love MJM. I supported the governor and will vote for him again, but I love that MJM rakes him over the coals every couple of weeks for being too slick. And I love that MJM takes the details of the job seriously, listening (usually) to both/all sides of an argument and seeking facts instead of rhetoric. There are too few legislator s like that.

But I think it's a crock that the head of the state democratic party is calling people telling them he's supporting Radogno, or at least blocking people from helping gianuoulis. I've heard that from two different, completely unrelated sources.

Contrast his behavior with George Dunne and even Richie Daley, who supported Harold Washington after he won the primary. I have no problem with individual Democrats crossing party lines. But when the alleged head of the party does it, that's an insult to the voters who took the time to pull a dem ballot.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

annoyed — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:22:28 -0000

This is really such B.S. Alexi is in involved in a business. Every Bank has problem customers, problem loans, and unfortunate situations...it doesn't mean the whole ship is rotten. Maybe no one wants a businessperson or a banker to ever run for political office, because that's surely the message. If Alexi had 20 times more experience, he would have 20 times more embarrassing lawsuits and what not. That's business. It doesn't mean someone has no ethics or that they are incompetent. It would be a lot better if people could focus on what Alexi or Radogno actually plan to do in office, and use that to judge them instead of this silliness. This country is so messed up because everyone just wants to take each others legs out instead of actually having some public discourse. It would be really nice to see bloggers discussing the best the use of public capital or something positive, instead of hating on people and speculating about who Barack or the Speaker should or shouldn't hug in public. Come on.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

bored now — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:43:52 -0000

dear huck,

any chance you made that same criticism about the speaker's daughter when she ran for ag? because others certainly did.

i'm just sayin...

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Snidely Whiplash — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:38:04 -0000

The Murphy, Walsh, Vrdolyak and Gorman support comments say mucho about Chris Rodogno ... she will put herself into debt with Satan himself in order to advance her career. It's pretty common knowledge that those four are machine D's in R clothing.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Huckleberry — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:54:38 -0000

Dear Mad -

You are insane in your comments about Senator Radogno. She's a Republican, period. She's no puppet for anyone, particularly the Speaker.
The Speaker supported a downstater in the primary because his downstate members were ringing their hands about another "all-Chicago" Democrat ticket, and because the the Broadway heir is, by all objective measures, wildly unqualified to be both a statewide candidate and Treasurer. Now is undoubtedly enjoying Senator Obama take his much-deserved medicine, and as has been pointed out by others, the Teasurer's Office is pretty far down on his priority list.
Keep your eye on the ball - it's about the Democrat majority in the House and '08 for the Attorney General. Mad, stop watching for the black helicopters coming over the ridge - there's no conspiracy here, just power politics as only the Speaker can do in the Illinois Democrat Party.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

bored now — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:17:23 -0000

hwkb doesn't get it (which should be obvious from the nym): i wasn't suggesting that alexi was asking obama what to do (although he may have), but that alexi seems to follow what he thinks obama would do. let's be real here: obama has set up the most ineffective decision-making system possible, no one thinks that he can or will do something bold. one of the senators i've elected told me that obama was the most conservative member of the senate, and he didn't meant ideologically. but, personally, i'm waiting to see if alexi runs the obama ads again.

but hwkb is right about alexi seeking madigan's and the party's support. while i am no fan of madigan (in most cases -- still got to admire that re-districting plan), i certainly understand why someone who won the primary (such as obama) would expect the party's whole-hearted support. it's also predictable, in this case, that it hasn't happened...

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

HeKnowsBarack — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:33:25 -0000

Memo to CliffDweller and ANON 4:50
Alexander has been trying to hip hop into Madigan's pocket since the moment the votes were cast.
"Please, let me in Mr Evil Power Broker," Alexander shouts in his night sweats.
So much for all the new,independent f
orce crap.
At least Madigan has been smart enough to keep all the pockets buttoned...
Meanwhile Alexander is still anxious to have anyone who got a straight deal from the bank and is not hooked with the outfit or some fast buck flim-flam to write to the blog pronto. The bank will give you a shiny, new toaster when you do.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Anon — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:50:41 -0000

Alexi wins by a landslide.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

T.J. — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:23:35 -0000

Alexi loses in landslide

I admire your optimism; I do not share it.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

statehouse shark — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:09:45 -0000

Minion is right on target.

Madigan didn't want Alexi because the state party didn't need another liberal from Chicago on the ticket.

This is now a political perception problem and the TV commercials will be devastating.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Minion — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:08:51 -0000

don't you get it, Way? You and all the Alexi junkies keep to your talking points for sure.

It does not matter if the regulatory agencies investigated or not. It is a POLITICAL problem in that it looks like this guy's supposed strength is in fact his greatest weakness. VP of a bank, in charge, family banking experience, yet with all of this "experience" he made or approved questionable loans.

You can bet that a campaign commercial will be coming regarding the elderly lady. And it will be devestating.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Way Northsider — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:03:29 -0000

Capitol Dweller is right on the money. Banking is a regulated industry. Allegations are allegations. Please point me to regulatory action if Alexi has done something wrong. The machine is sore he won. They would like him to step aside and then them appoint a candidate. I hope he hangs in there. I am sick of seeing people steamrollered if they don't kow tow to the powers that be.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Minion — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 22:00:39 -0000

(I was writing the above for Sango Dem, not Mad as Hell)

Mad, you are correct that you are just that. You think Madigan is bad? Obviously you were never in DuPage County, especially when Pate was running things.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Minion — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:58:55 -0000

to the above :

dude, you're wrong. Madigan did not want Alexi because the Democratic Party does NOT need another liberal Chicagoan on the ballot.

I think the guy really could give a rats a$s who the State Treasurer is. He was looking for diversity on the ballot, a tried and true method that both Democrats and Republicans have been using since the state was admitted into the union.

Now as for the quality of Mangieri as a candidate or "being so bad even fellow downstaters couldn't swallow it" I have no idea if Madigan approached Paul or not. What I do know is that Mangieri had the testicular fortitude to appear at the slatemaking and put his name in the running when NO ONE else wanted to. Give the guy credit for that. All this "Madigan did not support Alexi because he could not control him" is a bunch of b.s. He did not support him because 1) he is unelectable (as we are now finding out and 2) because he is a LIBERAL from Chicago-the last thing we needed on the state ticket.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Mad as hell — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:52:36 -0000

I agree wholeheartdly with Capitol Dweller,Mr. Madigan is the one smearing Alexi. Madigan who is leader of the Illiois combine, is trying to postion his Daughter,the do nothing Attorney General of Illiois,as the next Governor.
He wants Radagno to win the Treasure's position this fall, and will work to knock off Topinka,so that Radagno is the only Republican state elected official.In four years, Lisa Madigan will run for Governor and Madigan will put his puppet on the Republican side, which will be Radagno.Radagno will run an aweful campaign,and get trouced, and Madigan will take care of her on the backend.
If you can't see what's coming, then get out of Illinois politics! Radagno is being backed heavily by Maureen Murphy,Liz Gorman,Eddie Vrdolak,Tom Walsh and Jim Durkin,along by Congressman Lipinski(a Democrat) and Mike Madigan.
This Illinois Dictatorship,can only be stopped if The DuPage Republicans along with The Republicans from Will and Kendall counties,realize what is going on and pull there support from Radagno, who is a Cook County Democratic shill!!!
Madigan fears that his Daughter might have to run again against a Joe Birkett in four years, or a DuPage Republican or Will or Kendall republican.
Let's stick together, all Illionoisians,Democrats and Republicans, and throw this Bum Madigan out.Let's show him who the boss really is and that's the voters.Enough of Soviet stlye Goverment and Corruption, were Americans and we will show all these so called British Loyalists, that we are patriots.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

SangoDem — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:02:06 -0000

Sure, Madigan had a reason to not back Alexi. He wanted someone who would be in his pocket and owe his election completely to the Speaker. Too bad he picked a downstater so bad that even fellow downstaters couldn't swallow it.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

HeKnowsBarack — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:01:26 -0000

Q. What would Obama do?
A. The Senator and I have run the other way ---- far, far away. Alexander is trying to get in line for a book signing now, but no one wants to release the location.
BTW I am still waiting for a satisfied, non kink bank customer to jump uuup her on the blogbox and declare Alexander is da man!
Happy father's day Alexius; I am sure the cost of the clean up committee for this disaster won't cut into the bottom line tooooo much.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:29:34 -0000

does anybody even remember who lost to Judy last time? Nobody even pays attention to this office - until the holder runs for something else.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

bored now — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:42:00 -0000

yes, because we all know the only way to get elected in illinois is to get down in the mud and play dirty! right.

(i strongly suspect that, when faced with a dilemma, what alexi asks is, what would obama do? how many people think obama would "get in the meat grinder?" then why would you think alexi would? i know, i know, because that's what you've been taught...)

why do i always get the impression that alexi's real opponents are the madigans (or his surrogates)??? i can't wait to see the treasurer candidate reports.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

zatoichi — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:30:32 -0000

This seems to be a thre part issue.
1. Is Alexi guilty of a legal crime? If so where are the Bank regulators and what have they found? Of course no other bank has made similar loans.
2. Is Alexi guilty of immaturity? He comes across as a frat boy who was asked to run for this position and got caught up in the "coolness" whirlwind of the idea and how great it would look on his resume. Now comes the blades of the political fan and his lack of experience is showing huge. The Repubs gotta be salivating over this.
3. Where are the political supporters who thought he would be a great choice before the primary vote? The lack of verbal support from any significant group screams pretty loud. Seems the "team" does not want him. His mouth is not helping his case. Get the feeling some back ground plans got crossed and now some people are not happy.

If he or anyone else wants in the meat grinder they need to have the skills to survive. He is not showing the ability nor support.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

statehouse shark — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:33:09 -0000

Hello "Capitol Dweller" --

As the Statehouse shark, let me tell you that what I am sick and tired of is folks like yourself blaming Speaker Madigan for Alexi G's banking problems that the Tribune and S-T have found to be serious enough to write about. I find that kind of blame-shifting offensive.

And you know that politics is largely about perception. A candidate for State Treasurer whose sole experience is working at a bank now at the center of serious allegations -- well, quit Blaming State Party Chairman Madigan for that.

Should the state party try to help him. Sure, you bet. Should be withdrawn as a candidate for state treasurer, it's worth some consideration if these problems snowball in the 90-degree heat of Solstice season.

Happy Father's Day to all dads out there.

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Lovie's Leather — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:04:21 -0000

Since elections aren't a court of law, the people will convict Alexi. Prediction... Alexi loses in landslide as 3 Dems are reelected in a landslide (White, Little Miss Madigan, Hynes).

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

bored now — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:56:24 -0000

How many more stories like this can he take?

depends on how strong alexi's stomach is. while i have no doubt lord madigan isn't keen on someone new arriving to his fiefdom, i just don't think there's much of a market for these kinds of stories. 0o0o0o0o, illinois' corrupt! illinois politics are dirty!! fer shame!!!

the eyeballs on this story are probably in the thousands. i happened to be at a meeting of obama people yesterday, and i was struck by how little they cared about the jihad against alexi. they weren't moved at all (and we know how well hynes did against obama!). i haven't talked to a *single* voter who cares about this story. no doubt, alexi will lose (BIG) in the 13th ward! i wouldn't even be surprised by another dpi mailing against him. but it will fall on deaf ears, then, too.

the only question is: can alexi be intimidated? and how much power and credibility does madigan lose if he can't? it may be that madigan's spent (although i'd bet this prediction has been made, and found wanting, before). he's getting old and those 1970s tactics just aren't as effective as they used to be...

Re: More trouble for Alexi, Part 623

Capitol Dweller — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:44:29 -0000

Shark,

I assure you that I am far from an 'amateur'. The Speaker used DPI resources to vilify a Democratic candidate during the primary with pieces that were more harsh than those usually used by the opposing party in a General Election. Conversely, he has spent millions over the years to prop up candidates far more flawed than Alexi, whose greatest weakness to date has been public relations. Wouldn't common sense dictate that the State Party Chairman at least SPEAK with all of his statewide candidates?

If there is any sense of entitlement involved here, it is coming from the Speaker, not from those of us wanting to back the guy who won the primary. If Mangieri had won, rest assured that he would be coming under fire, and you can also bet that the Speaker would ramp up efforts to help do damage control for Mangieri. But that's because Paul was his guy.

His 'banking problems' to date consist of smears and allegations. If I am wrong, please direct me to any finding of wrongdoing, and I will be happy to reconsider my position. Have a good weekend everybody.