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Rich Miller — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:14:46 -0000

LOL.

I don't have subpoena power.

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anon — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:12:53 -0000

I agree with "julie." This blog is supposed to delete or moderate rumors, not fan them. Prove the allegation that has been made. If it proved correct, then gloat. If not, pull the thread.

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Chicago Democrat — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:57:37 -0000

I sincerely hope that Pat Dowell reports this to the State Board of Elections and the Cook County States Attorney, right before she calls her lawyer to file a defamation suit against Dunkin.

County prosecutors should simply check-in with the postmaster to determine who owns the bulk account. If it's a mailhouse, they can subpoena records to determine who paid for the piece.

If it was Mr. Dunkin, he is now in a very, very bad world of hurt - politically, personally and financially. And for what? A worthless committeeman's race.

Once Secretary of State White hears about this one - I don't think these two will have a "relationship" for much longer.

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Levois — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:03:26 -0000

I just flagged it again because if it was down it is up again now!

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anon, anon, anon — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:07:52 -0000

This weekend I found the regular Dunkin piece underneath my windshield wiper. It wasn't mailed, but it already had the permit printed on it.

I've worked with a lot of mailhouses, and the regs are very strict about size, placement, etc. on permits. If we used the mailhouse's permit, we kept the permit area blank, and they inkjetted theirs. If we used ours, we would just copy our previous return address & permit to the new mail piece.

I'm not buying it that Dunkin's not behind this.

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Gregor — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:06:50 -0000

Dunkin has some 'splainin' to do in the morning, he should be able to show canceled checks for his own legit mailings thru that address if it belongs to a mailing service. A call to the regional Postmaster should quickly clear up who paid for that number and owns the number. Every donut has at least one hole in it, mister Dunkin.

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DuPage Dave — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:56:39 -0000

As of now, the blog has been closed by google (i.e. it can only be accessed by its author). Looks like CapFax had an impact again.

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Carl Nyberg — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:16:57 -0000

If it's merely a coincidence that the mailing house used the same permit for two different clients then Dunkin's people should be able to get their vendor to provide examples of other clients using the same permit number, right?

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Rich Miller — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:08:29 -0000

Yep, reader, agreed. Completely. It's just another one of those coinkydinks, I'm sure.

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reader — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:04:21 -0000

it is not unusual and quite common for a mailing house to let their customers use their permits in order to save money on having to purchase a permit.

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phocion — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:50:08 -0000

So, let's see. Ken Dunkin is running against Pat Dowell in this race. Ken Dunkin uses the same postal permit number on his campaign literature as is used in the "anonymous" and odious attack piece. The "anonymous" piece and blog are attacking Pat Dowell, Ken Dunkin's opponent. Yep, it's all just a coincidence.

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julie — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:58:18 -0000

actually, if a mailing house prices reasonably, lots of people will use it.

If you're going to prove something, PROVE IT. i don't have a horse in this race and a coworker asked me about the permits since i work in the direct mail business. but that permit number does not effectively prove the mail was paid for by the same person.

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Pat collins — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:37:48 -0000

They may just happen to use the same mailing house.

There is no place on earth with such a dense occurrence of coincidences as a Chicago election.

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anon — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:31:53 -0000

Wonder what Jesse White has to say now?

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big_low — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:49:10 -0000

It is possible that the permit number is that of a mailing house and not of Ken Dunkin.

They may just happen to use the same mailing house.

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julie — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:48:54 -0000

You can't prove the same person is behind the mail using permit numbers- that just proves the same person mailed it. If they both used the same mailhouse and "borrowed" the permit, the permit # could be the same. Happens often.

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Arthur Andersen — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:41:01 -0000

Gosh, I hope this doesn't get his membership in the Century Club revoked.

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Anon — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:21:54 -0000

Think of what the money spent on the mailer could do for the homeless guy!

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more like... — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:14:09 -0000

blago must be very proud that dunkin is one of his handful of supporters. stupid is as stupid supports.

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Levois — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:06:11 -0000

Consider that blog flagged!

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Old Town Native — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:58:00 -0000

As someone who lives near his district, it is a shame and a mockery of our neighborhood to have such a buffoon represent us. Ever since he sponsored the Scientology exhibit at the Thompson center I knew he had a screw loose. It is time we get a credible candidate to run against him. Dumb and ignorant are not flaws that can be corrected. Rich thanks for one of the best investigative pieces I have seen in a long time. I am curious to see if he violated any campaign finance laws.

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Garp — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:54:40 -0000

Pat Dowell must have the patience of a saint. I watched her debate Dorothy Tillman and was amazed how she could keep her self control. Now she is going up against this lunatic. I am not sure what she did in a past life to draw these two jokers but her ward is lucky she came along.

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RMW Stanford — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:50:47 -0000

Good how dumb can you be to use the same bulk permit, does anyone every run against this guy for his House seat?

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Carl Nyberg — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:49:11 -0000

Rich, please keep us updated. I'm curious what rules Google is enforcing.

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Gregor — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:47:40 -0000

Dunkin is a stain on the party. Why/ how did a shmuck like him ever get elected except thru the same "massa" Daley machine he disparages? His brilliant campaign strateegery smacks of something the Blago crowd would do; its just as inept. I hope the Chitown TV tubes run with this, Ken deserves what he has coming to him.