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What I would love to see, particularly with these two candidates, is a debate where each of the candidates is given a longer time to speak about an issue. Say, five minutes each to describe their position on the issue, and then three minutes each for rebuttal.
Blagojevich can't hold enough information to speak about an issue for five minutes straight, and Topinka hasn't developed enough plans to talk for five minutes straight. This kind of format will force them to go beyond the sound bites that make up the campaign so far.
Seriously, make them follow high school debate rules and bring their evidence.
Do one of the debates on Oprah. Blago can pretend he's Tom Cruise.
As far as debates I would like to see 2 a month in July, August and September. 3 in October and 1 November. I think it would be great to have a debate in Springfield during the State Fair to coincide with each party's day at the State Fair (off site of course), I also think the Springfield debates should be part of a series that includes the entire ticket. On one day have both the Treasurer and Comptroller debate. On the next day have AG and Secretary of State debate and on the final day have an undercard of the Lt. Gov's with the main event being Governor. For excitement we may want to put the Treasurer and Gov debates on the same day.
I would also like to see 2 debates on college campuses one in Chicago metro and one downstate. One debate for the African American community and one debate for the Hispanic Community and finally one debate focusing on women's issues.
I also think having journalists moderate debates outside of their normal markets. Finke and Bernie moderate Chicago debates. Andy Shaw moderates Springfield, John Kass does Metro East, Mark Brown does Quad Cities, etc.
If yesterday is any indication I'm sure throughout the day I will be called a "troll," "schmo," "dummy," "a Blago plant" and I will be told I'm ruining the blog (thanks Vanilla Man). So have fun! BTW don't mistake my lake of response to being scared off or as someone said yesterday "in handcuffs," my lack of response after 8:00 AM is due to the fact that I have a job. . .LOL
===“wndycty†- good to see you still posting. Just know that you’re always welcome here.
I hope people get over themselves and stop the personal attacks. Yesterday was too much, and I probably should have shut the entire site down. I’ll be gone much of today, but if it gets bad again, just hang in there.===
-- Ms. Topinka, page 7-21, Department of Human Services: Which programs would you cut to avoid the need for fund transfers? How about page, 8-1, Department of Corrections. What's that, you say you would increase funding there? Where would the money come from?
-- Governor, page 10-44, Department of Transportation: what specific funding sources will you support to match all of the new federal transportation dollars signed by President Bush last year in Illinois?
-- Governor, page 6-1, State Board of Education -- will you be able to administer your ambitious education plan without increasing the 507 staff members you once described as a soviet-style bureaucracy?
Other debates around the state: get local news/talk radio people and do not allow the same statements twice to force the speakers to get off their talking points.
Do a special budget debate from one of the rooms in the Capital Building. Moderators: Mike Lawrence and Ralph Matire. Special questions from 1 senators/reps, 2 other questions from trade association groups, 2 questions from general public. Let Mike and Ralph handle the rest.
Afterwards, folks can decide who won by calling a 1-800 number (kinda like American Idol). The winning candidate gets a free night's stay at Andy Shaw's Windy City Inn. Employees of ABC Channel 7 and relatives/cronies of Alderman Ed Burke are
If Illinois is in such bad shape, why won't she jump on the chance to get a free forum to make her case, especially since she doesn't have the dough for tv ads.
Chicken?
In the Dick Kay debate, Blago occasionally got off a paragraph, but JBT relied almost exclusively on one-liners. I think she can do better than that, but I'd like to see more evidence. One-liners and sound bites do nothing to educate the electorate on what the candidates stand for.
Although the Illinois Green Party has been flying under the radar for the last three months, they have already exceeded the 25,000 required signatures to be on the ballot and are out there getting more as we speak.
Rich Whitney is an Illinois version of Ralph Nader. If you want politics to be raised to a higher standard around Illinois, he should be included in all future debates.
Each candidate would make a statement as to the policy objectives which are desired to solve the apparent problem (five minutes each) These statements will be placed on the internet.
Each candidate would then have the opportunity to indicate his/her plan to reach the objective and its cost. Attention will be paid to the source of payment for these costs. Viewgraphs and charts will be permitted. (ten minutes each) Indeed, if the debate is televised, they will be pre provided to the producer and to the panelists (if any) and may be used later for questioning and rebuttal.
Each candidate will then question the other on the presentation. (five minutes each)
Two panelists of differing persuasions and the moderators will ask questions of each. (fifteen minutes) Panelist Soliloquys not permitted. The moderator's questions will be limited to a selection of those collected from the audience. These latter questions will identify the name and affiliation of the submitter.
A debate for misc issues and a final debate for overarching priorities would also be important to fully inform citizens.
A general debate with a Libertarian and a Green asking the questions should be both entertaining and educational.
Compilations of all debates (and questionnaires) should be easily found online!
So concerning debates, they are still trying to whip this dead horse. Blagojevich wants to trumpet a health care program he proposed and passed that has no funding. He wants us to forget that we are over 1.5 billion behind in health care payments already. He wants us to forget that he is already responsible for providing health care and has muffed it up spectacularly. To believe he can pull off AllKids is asking voters to forget how incompetent his administration is. He wants us to forget that kids had been covered before he was elected.
Blagojevich wants voters to believe that he invented the wheel when it comes to health care programs. He wants to talk about how wonderful he is and how wonderful his programs are, and how much money he will save us, blah, blah, blah.
We don't need to hear it. As Topinka says, no one is interested in what Blagojevich has to say. Rod has talked and talked and failed to deliver so many times, voters are not listening to him anymore.
I liked the Kay debate. It showed us a lot more about the personalities of the governor and the treasurer. It showed us how quickly they think and what is important to them. It showed us what each thought was the most important campaign point to be made at that time.
Few things suck as much as a controlled "debate" where each candidate stands behind a lecturn and spouts PR statements. Anything but that!
"If you are looking for a good debate, Rich Whitney, the Green Party Gubernatorial candidate is the most articulate, best informed, logical thinker of the three who will actually be on the ballot in November."
That is exactly why Whitney will not be allowed into the debates. While Democrats and Republicans at large are too afraid to debate third party candidates, these too especially want to keep the debate focused on which one is more corrupt than the other, and they don't want a bunch of ideas -- like equal marriage, alternative energy, protecting personal liberties, fiscal responsibility -- getting in the way.
I'm tired of seeing some bloggers hog a QOA and use it as a chat room.
Blogs are like bars. You have your regulars who have colorful comments. Drop-bys passing through and adding statements. When everyone gets a chance to add their comments, it makes for a better blog. I want to read responses from everyone, not a diatribe.
So, I propose that we make our statement on the QOA, then let others have their say too. No one wants to read snarky comments between schmos.
Give those Greens and Constitution and Libertarian folks some limelight.
I also generally enjoy the town hall styles where citizens can ask questions -- but I'd like for them to be able to ask follow-ups &/or point out when candidates don't actually answer their questions....
* After the moderator asks a question, each candidate tries to bounce a quarter into a shot-glass of booze.
* If the candidate misses, he or she drinks before answering.
* If the candidate bounces the quarter into the glass, the opponent drinks before his or her turn to answer.
* The debate continues until a candidate passes out or until the race becomes interesting.
It's not Lincoln-Douglas, but it might get Illinois voters to tune in.
I'm sure this would give us some very interesting insight into the current internals of State Government. I'm sure Rod would prove that he doesn't have a clue what's going on in his Departments; or how bad things really are.
I'd hold the debates downstate in Logan County at the old Lincoln Development Center.
I'd like to see forceful moderators and strictly goverened times. The interuptions during their first debate drove me nuts!
You'd keep the crowd entertained because they'd want to see who wins. And you'd make the day-after stories of debate winners and losers a heck of a lot easier. There'd actually be a score.
It's kind of cheap, but if a politician saw people were only giving him a 1 out of 10 for reciting phrases like "reform and renewal" or "public official A," maybe he'd actually try to say something interesting.
That or we could just go back to the old, old days of hootin' and hollerin' at debates. ;)
That's 11. Then, to make a baker's dozen, do one in Galesburg at the site of the infamous Lincoln-Douglas debate.
Perfect plan.
1. Mancow
2. Dick Mell
3. Coach Ron
4. Edwin Eisendrath/Jack Roeser
5. Ditka
6. Dick Kay Snodgrass (again)
7. Rich Miller/Rick Pearson/Scott Fornek (beards on parade)
8. Skippy Jacobson
9. Terri O’Brien
10. Randall Sherman/Mark Giangreco
11. Roe Conn
12. Ron Santo
13. Bob Greene/Neil Steinberg
14. Carol Marin/Jerry Springer
15. Sister Muhammad
16. George Ryan
17. Mike North
18. Boers and Bernstein
Or we could have an open debate (over all issues Illinois) with one minute to respond and a thirty second rebuttle... and it could be moderated by Jim Oberweis and Ed Eisendrath. They would take turns asking the questions. Wait til the Roesers (Tom and Jack) hear about this....
I'd also have five forums focusing on the top five issues in the upcoming election: Education, Health Care, Job Creation, State Budget/Taxes, and Government Ethics/Corruption. For these forums, I'd either invite leaders from groups with a passion about these issues to be the moderators, or i'd put a representative of those groups up on stage and into the fray. I'd love to see Blagojevich duking it out with Ralph Martire over education funding and the budget or Topinka going head-to-head with Jim Duffett or Lynda Delaforgue on health care. Putting non-politicians up there on stage with nothing to lose would really make the debate interesting.
Or is it full combat, blood sport, designed to make people stutter or blink or fall down bleeding. If the latter, all you jokesters are right about creative moderating and traveling circuses.
As a straight moderator, the newly retired Dick Kay would be great. His institutional knowledge fills the bill.
I like it best when a honest, non-biased, reporter asks genuine questions that matter.
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/061106/OP__B9TTTM...
We're going to be a real contender in the race, and Rich will shake up the polls, based on my "man-on-the-street" polls.
While many voters won't sign anything, there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the current candidates and they're looking for alternatives! It will be more than enough for the others to take notice.
and, BTW, we WILL make it onto the ballot.
My media contact also noted that if it was up to him, he'd cancel the debates alltogether unless the Greens, et al on the ballot, were included, but that it wasn't likely to play out that way. The corporate parties will pay whatever it takes to make sure they're the only ones represented.
The moderators should be non-partisan, give equal time to all candidates, and field questions from the public (perhaps submitted ahead of time online, to reach a wider audience). Maybe this year the debates could actually be about the issues.