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That is assuming the feds haven't indicted him by then.
The Little Lisa Madigan was a good reasoned choice. Possibly Hynes.
Who he will appoint = Dan Hynes
Seriously, though: Hynes. He's a reasonably honest and serious public servant. We all know he'll never be governor (Lisa's got dibbs), and he's going to waste as a glorified accountant. Plus, with the Dems in control of both offices anyway, it would be a good time to consolidate the Comptroller and Treasurer's office - which will save the state money.
This removes his primary competition. She is his greatest threat (other than the feds) to a third term.
are Hynes and Lisa Madigan.
Senators were originally nominated by the governor, approved by the state senate, and sent to Washington. When this changed 100 years or so ago, governors were allowed to keep this original power in cases when the seat becomes vacated.
Its not like it used to be! future politicians take note as to what is happening throughout the state and country. the fringe benefits of being a politician are slowly eroding away.
Having the Hynes family and the madigan family playing off against one another is good for the Rodster.
I think that Rahm Emmaneul would be best for getting Illinois at least up to the table.
My first choice is Bill Daley. The only people who can really provide significant support are the Daleys. There is no one else in Illinois that comes close to that much clout. The Mayor can help deliver Chicago area votes, line up support nationally wiht mayors and other politicians, and give the full backing of his political consultants and admin heavyweights including Rahm and Axelrod. Bill can help with his national connections. Bill Daley has played with the idea of running for a significant office and I'm sure he would love to be Sen. Daley.
Another possibility is that Obama will want to see another African-American in his place to have a modicum of diversity in the Senate and pay back some old supporters. The reality is he will have the African-American votes and money already so no AA really brings that much to the table. One possibility is Jesse Jr. I'm sure he would be interested and Jesse Sr. can provide significant national level support. Another option is John Rogers, Linda Rice Johnson or a civic minded, successful business person.
While I'm sure Alexis Giannoulias would be interested. There is no compelling reason and he is too young.
I also don't think the Madigans or Hynes bring enough to a national campaign to warrant a senate appointment.
Why would Poshard want it? He has a big salary and few responsibilities right now.
Oh wait, that was yesterday's topic.
Also, I am totally joking about Durbin losing.
I'll go with Hynes, or someone else who got things done for Rod in 02 or 06.
Appointing Lisa Madigan gets you the same two-fer, and also gets Lisa out of the race for Gov by putting her in DC 11 months out of the year.
However, I'm not sure Lisa would accept. I think she's got her eyes fixed on the Gov's mansion. Heck, she might as well move in now since nobody's using it.
Shiela Simon would be a very smart choice.
Obama can talk and talk about being clean and above the fray or whatever (gimme a break), but he can't muster a peep of criticism when it comes to the endemic corruption in his own adopted state and among his own peers.
He certainly is a good neighbor ... D'oh!!!
That way, Lisa Madigan is automatically elevated to Governor, and has nobody standing in her way for 2010 which will make her father quite happy as well.
Seriously, shouldn’t we be referring to Governor-Elect Quinn, post election?
You'd probably accuse Sen. Paul Simon of the same crime for not campaigning against corruption in Chicago while he was in the US Senate. Sen. Max Cleland -- a decorated hero who gave every limb but his left arm to his country -- was unpatriotic according to you guys, so why not?
Wanna blame somebody for not speaking out about "business as usual" in the City of Chicago? How about blaming that flock of sheep known as the "City Council"? It's actually their job to provide oversight. Last time I checked, Obama isn't an Alderman.
While it may be a discussion for another topic, "DeepFried" has a good point. Obama hasn't said much about the undeniable corruption in either his home state or home city. As for his home county, he campaigned for the new poster-child of blatant and corrupt nepotism! Isn't not unfair to ask him to answer for this, and it's certainly not "swiftboating."
Please pick me! I am out of a job because of you. It is the least you can do for that whipping you gave me. Your old pal, Judy
I wish people would stop pushing Sheila Simon. I wish people would stop pushing the kids of politicians past. It gets old. Being born to a noted politician does not make you ready to be a leader the second you graduate law school, get your MBA, "work" on a campaign, etc. Seriously, folks, we need to cut it out before Illinois is run by third-and-fourth generation political bloodlines.
"Crackhead Obama"?
"Don’t even joke about that socialist"?
"WTF? Obama is superhuman."?
Grow up people. No wonder you lost the mid-terms. The American people finally realized juvenile put-downs are no way to run our nation.
As to Rich's question...
Dan Hynes clearly wants the job or he wouldn't have run for it. He was gracious in defeat and has been a very capable campaigner for folks up and down the ballot before and since 2004. He'd be a consensus favorite and an easy choice.
Lisa Madigan may be a politically wise choice for Blago. But I don't see him going there, or her accepting even if he does.
Bill Daley and Miguel del Valle are interesting choices, but I don't think they're on Blago's radar. By the same token, Gery Chico could be a darkhorse, "interesting" choice.
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Grand Old Partisan, Obama can give the same answer the Bush-Cheney administration has been giving to even deeper questions about Halliburton and other corruption and war-profiteering issues from Iraq's lost millions to Katrina's billion dollars of waste -- "We're not going to talk about that."
Conservatives never seem to mind the billions being drained by the Bush White House...
He supported Stroger for the same reason Durbin did -- party loyalty.
Rezko sidled up to Obama, not the other way around. Slimey people tend to do that -- look at how many stalkers pop-culture celebrities attract.
And if your conservative friends like "Crackhead" up there wants to ask about Sen. Obama's past experimentation with illicit drugs, maybe he should've shown some consistency and act just as concerned about Pres. Bush's reported cocaine habit.
Just not another Chicago Dem
I seem to remember this being a bit of an issue back in 1994 when Kustra was going to quit and Jim Edgar had his heart issue, and there was talk that until the next election when a new ticket would be elected, that Attorney General Roland Burris would be next in the line of succession.
I know that if in several other states, the Lt. Governorship becomes vacant, somebody such as the State Senate President, assumes the role in addition to their State Senate duties.
So, when Blago goes to the slammer and Quinn becomes Governor, there will not be a Lt. Governor. So if hypothetically speaking, Obama resigns, Quinn appoints himself to the Senate. He doesn’t have to worry about winning an election and Lisa Madigan becomes the third Governor in as many years and is the incumbent for 2010.
In the face of everything Giannoulias beat them all. He may take out Durbin in the primary in 2008.
History lesson -
Dixon was a legend compared to Durbin and Moseley-Braun took him out.
ARTICLE V, SECTION 7. VACANCIES IN OTHER ELECTIVE OFFICES
If the Attorney General, Secretary of State, Comptroller or Treasurer fails to qualify or if his office becomes vacant, the Governor shall fill the office by appointment. The appointee shall hold office until the elected officer qualifies or until a successor is elected and qualified as
may be provided by law and shall not be subject to removal by the Governor. If the Lieutenant Governor fails to qualify or if his office becomes vacant, it shall remain vacant until the end of the term. (Source: Illinois Constitution.)
Whether folks like it or not, we live in a partisan democracy. Republicans get up on a soapbox to make speeches about Democratic corruption and visa-versa, but they don't make speeches about members of their own party unless they're running against them in a primary.
or maybe Bobbie Steele's son
How did the fraudulent disaster relief claims in Katrina become Bush's fault? It's partisan B.S. to suggest that Bush is to blame for individuals lying about the damage to their homes or misusing the money to buy non-essential items.
And Illinois Dems have zero standing to complain about government waste - be it Iraq, Katrina, or otherwise. Cook County has been for sale for a long time and "profiteering" from government is the rule in the City of Chicago. Your Governor instituted the most aggressive pay-to-play programs we have ever seen and you ethusiastically reelected him. You passed over a reliably moderate and fiscally conservative Republican to vote for Blago. Shame on you.
Pretend that Obama is whatever you want and the media will help you foist it on the public. Style over substance is your principle after all.
But please, spare us the sanctimonious tirade against government waste. It shows that you are intellectually dishonest or an ignorant partisan at best.
He's matured in office and has led with integrity for the past 8 years statewide.
Hands down over Lisa Madigan.
Rod will pick himself or someone who has helped him a lot.
How about a Hispanic Senator- Gutierrez.
Jay Hoffman-- downstate
You read it here, but more so, you can just feel it, smell it, taste it. The GOP is terrified: Obama is a real candidate who could and would win the White House in 2008.
For example, Illinois Republicans are screaming that Obama should chastise Mayor Daley and others for alleged or actual public corruption ?
Sorry, but you guys lost your credibility to lecture anyone about corruption in government right around the 75th conviction in Operation Safe Roads.
Everyone agrees our elected officials should be honest public servants, but public corruption is an equal opportunity bipartisan disease. To quote the Chicago Tribune in its article the day Ryan was found guilty: "Operation Safe Road has snared 75 convictions, ranking it with Operation Greylord, the 1980s probe of judicial corruption, as the most successful federal investigations in modern Chicago history in reach and significance."
As for the argument that Obama lacks the experience to be President, its not the paper, its the person that matters.
Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney had the perfect resumes to run and win the war in Iraq, but instead initiated a fiasco. So its not experience alone, but rather does the person have the judgment necessary to learn from experience and make good decisions.
You read it here, but more so, you can just feel it, smell it, taste it. The GOP is terrified: Obama is a real candidate who could and would win the White House in 2008.
For example, Illinois Republicans are screaming that Obama should chastise Mayor Daley and others for alleged or actual public corruption ?
Sorry, but you guys lost your credibility to lecture anyone about corruption in government right around the 75th conviction in Operation Safe Roads.
Everyone agrees our elected officials should be honest public servants, but public corruption is an equal opportunity bipartisan disease. To quote the Chicago Tribune in its article the day Ryan was found guilty: "Operation Safe Road has snared 75 convictions, ranking it with Operation Greylord, the 1980s probe of judicial corruption, as the most successful federal investigations in modern Chicago history in reach and significance."
As for the argument that Obama lacks the experience to be President, its not the paper, its the person that matters.
Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney had the perfect resumes to run and win the war in Iraq, but instead initiated a fiasco. So its not experience alone, but rather does the person have the judgment necessary to learn from experience and make good decisions.
Lisa would seriously consider going to Washington. She doesn't want to run for Governor even though Mike Madigan as aspirations for her to do so. She knows whoever takes over for Blagojevich has been handed a "Kamikazee Flight" as far as their political future goes. Who wants to clean up the mess that Ryan & Blago have created?
Rod would also eliminate Lisa as a gubernatorial contender in this way for when he comes up for re-election again.
If Bush didn't want responsibility for overseeing the country during times of war, natural disaster or anything else ... he shouldn't be the president.
The Republican Congressmen were in charge of setting up the Federal disaster relief response to Katrina and Republican Bush signed off on it.
If there is now (as we're finding out) $1 Billion in fraud and waste it is the Republicans' fault for not having set up more rigorous oversight -- and Bush is their point person.
So that's how it becomes his responsibility -- he's in charge.
I nominate her husband for U.S. Senate!