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Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Some Guy — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:34:56 -0000

I would never vote for either one .. . unless the only other choice was Oberweis.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Papa Legba — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:32:52 -0000

Two empty suits with bad haircuts, and worse ideas.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

JonShibleyFan — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:25:50 -0000

"...he also has the obligation to defend and protect the country as the commander in chief."

You'll let us know when he starts?

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Ghost — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:38:25 -0000

On the related issue of the blago health care expansion, the Sangomon County case leave to file has been denied based on the existance of the already pending cook county suit.

From the SJ-R

===Suit against Blagojevich health plan barred, another proceeding
Last Updated 12/10/2007 3:21:50 PM

A Sangamon County judge barred a lawsuit against Gov. Rod Blagojevich's expanded health care plan Monday. But that's only because a similar one is proceeding in Cook County.

Circuit Judge Leo Zappa agreed with lawyers for Blagojevich that allowing the lawsuit would be unfairly duplicative because a similar suit in Cook County was OK'd Monday.

The Illinois Coalition for Jobs, Growth and Prosperity sued the governor last week to stop him from adding 147,000 parents to state-subsidized health insurance. Blagojevich announced plans to expand the program even though he didn't have authority from legislators.

But Zappa prohibited the Sangamon County suit from being filed while the Cook County action plays out.

-- Associated Press===

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Just a Citizen — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:38:04 -0000

One is a Democrat who should be impeached while the other is a Republican who should be impeached.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:43:56 -0000

Of course the president has the obligation to follow this law, [but] he also has the obligation to defend and protect the country as the commander in chief.
I stand by my man.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

archpundit — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:56:01 -0000

===. But everything he has done has one purpose. To protect the American people.

From science? Seriously, the signing statements have been done on a broad range of bills. He signs a bill, issues a signing statement directly contradicting the bill, and then does what he wants. In several cases the bills required that scientific reports in agencies be released without political interference and then Bush said it was okay to interfere and did it.

How is that protecting the American people?

And how is it different than Blagojevich?

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Pro-Gunner — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:48:13 -0000

Bush is a second amendment patriot and Blago is a second amendment pinhead.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Some Guy — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:39:01 -0000

Neither have ever been in Cliff Claven's kitchen.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Rich Miller — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:37:21 -0000

===George W. Bush is a man of honor and true to his word. ===

Anonymous, you might want to ask McCain how he feels about this after Bush agreed to support McCain's anti-torture language and then essentially nullified the provision in his Presidential signing statement.

I see little difference between the two men when it comes to their dealings with their respective legislatures, except perhaps that Bush has been more successful at dominating the process.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:28:21 -0000

Love him or hate him. George W. Bush is a man of honor and true to his word. You may hate him and this war. In fact we all hate this war including our President. But everything he has done has one purpose. To protect the American people.
As for Blagojevich I see no honor and we all know his word is mud. No comparison.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Moline Maleman — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:28:13 -0000

Both were REELECTED! When our grandchildren ask "why" we can say a lot about these two. But we need to say something about those that are as guilty. The opposition parties who put up those who had waited patiently for "their turn." The members of the press who are not those who would have exposed Watergate, Pentagon Papers, and the like instead they put out pulp provided by staffs of the Fortunate Sons/Wives! Lazy or turned off voters who didn't participate in the process. I hope this doesn't repeat itself in 08.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Captain America — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:02:09 -0000

Blago seems to be operating on the same unitary execdutive theory that has become the modus operandi of the Bush adminstration. I'm the Chief Excecutive and I can do whatever I want regardless of what the legislature says or does.

Both seem to believe that laws, regulations, and administrative procedures don't apply to them whenever it is inconvenient to follow them.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

countryboy — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:59:02 -0000

I can't quite shake the notion that both Blago and Bush just might, in fact, realize and intend exactly what they're doing. Nationally, its about ideology. Stateside, its all about Rod.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

archpundit — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:47:40 -0000

===The current president is â€œabusingâ€ powers in order to fight the current war.

The signing statements aren't just concerning the war or civil liberties--they affect every area of policy. One particular area is science policy where Bush asserts the ability to ignore the law he just signed by being able to censor scientific findings of federal agencies.

Screaming war and excusing constant and consistent violations of the US Constitution is a distraction to the real damage being done by George Bush. Strangely, the problem is clear when Blagojevich claims the same authority.

They both are authoritarian twits who have no respect for the law or democracy.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Platitudinus — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:40:52 -0000

SCAM
Everybody knows you can't shake hands with a fist.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

ZC — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:32:58 -0000

Where to end.

Both hard-working, disciplined campaigners who are masters of staying on message. Both regularly indifferent to complex questions of policy, leaving it for other people to handle. Both charming in personal settings. Both arrogant and amateur in terms of how they deal with their own party leadership (this wasn't as well covered with Bush, but it's coming out now). Both like to invent mandates that have nothing to do with the content of their reelection campaigns (GRT for Blago, Social Security for Bush). Both unusually loose with the facts, even for a politician, to the point where you ask, "Does he even know what he's saying is incorrect?" Both like to vacation for as long as possible away from the capitol. Both look vaguely like chimps. Both love to overspend, ignore deficits, and then talk how fiscally responsible they are. Both love to run. Both determined to expand their executive powers to end-run the legislature when possible.

Both exposed as frauds by a public and press corps that have their numbers (very low now, for both). You can't fool all the people all the time. Can't wait until we're rid of both of them.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Ghost — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:05:05 -0000

Thats easy, since he is a stay at home dad he was able to order them the moment they went up for sale, but before the 5 min mark when they were all sold out. If you are a stay at home parent you can do these kinds of things :)

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Little Egypt — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:02:25 -0000

Sorry Rich, I posted before I read your warning.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

fan of Capitol Fax — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:01:40 -0000

Oh, i should respond to the question though: Bush and Blago are comparable in that they are both incredibly unpopular. However the repubs by and large stuck with Bush, the Dems do not believe in Blago. He has made Madigan look like a good govt. goo goo (almost) which is sort of incredible.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Team Sleep — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:01:12 -0000

They are essentially the same person. The only difference I see is that Bush was raised in power and money and Rod married into power and summarily acquired wealth.

Both men are egotistical yet friendly, somewhat lacking intelligence yet ambitious and great campaigners. They are people persons who forgot that people matter. That about sums it up.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Rich Miller — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:59:39 -0000

<font color="red">Stick to the question, please, or be deleted. Thanks.

Last and final warning.</font>

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

fan of Capitol Fax — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:57:12 -0000

Kudos to vanilla man. the meme that Bush lied us into war is infantile. That doesn't mean his Iraq policy is vindicated but that particular meme is the result of the infantilization of his opponents. That the entire world believed Saddam had WMDs, a continuous asessment from Clinton to Bush, that saddam did have them in the past and used them, that Saddam did everything to continue to give the impression he still had them (Blix's last report said uncategorially that the WMDs had not been accounted for and that the UN could not verify they were gone due Iraq's lack of coopertaion), all of these points would have led someone to conclude Bush would have been lying if he said he DIDN'T think Iraq had WMDs. At some point Bush's critics simply believed he or his "cabal" became evil super powers who some how were omniscient and have been working to impose a fascist takeover of the US and the constitution. That he is term limited and that sticking to his policy likely cost him his party's majorities in Congress somehow does not (like the points above and his "lying" us into war)make a dent in this narritive of Evil Bush (or Evil stoopid Bush and his super smart cabal led by Cheney). Pathetic.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

The 'Broken Heart' of Rogers P — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:52:08 -0000

And while I'm on this Hannah Montana concert subject, I'd like to know how Rod and family scored such coveted tickets to the hottest show in town? This has been botherng me all morning. lol.

Re: Question of the day – Blagojevich and Bush

Little Egypt — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:47:26 -0000

The difference in George W. and Elvis - political parties.