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Re: Rate the ads

Jay SeaBee — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:24:47 -0000

I don't know that it's totally fair to call Huckabee a "liar." I never noticed the image until the hoopla began. If the current trends hold up, it's going to be Obama and Huckabee. People say religion doesn't matter, but in the end, it really does. Can you truly see Americans voting for an atheist? Muslim? Mormon? I think many voters and pundits talk a big game but we really want a president who has some mainline religious base to call upon. It is going to be Obama vs. Huckabee.

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steve schnorf — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:23:38 -0000

What cross? Are people talking about the white bookcase in the background?

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IllinoisEddie — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:04:02 -0000

The Huckabee spot is a work of art.

"Do you hate political ads? ... I hate political ads. ... This is not a political ad."

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JonShibleyFan — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:23:55 -0000

Bah! to Rudy and Hillary for making their holiday ads so political. I pray for Peace through Strength...ugh, give it a rest already. Sickening.

I too find Huckabee strangely compelling...until I remember that he is insane, and was a shoddy governor to boot.

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Rod's Brush — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:30 -0000

Forgetting the John Edwards Ad?

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phocion — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:14:14 -0000

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but....

Obama didn't get the IVI-IPO endorsement for President yesterday. That's his home base organization since the early 1990's. Trying not to overstate this, but this could be a problem for him to explain.

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Anonymous — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:09:34 -0000

I love the Giuliani ad. It's fits him perfect. Very dry humor.
The Obama girls are beautiful. Also a good ad. Huck, too Goomer Pile for me.
Hillary forget about it.

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Esteban — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:34:47 -0000

The "cross" in Huck's ad is obviously a book-
case; you can see stuff sitting on the
horizontal portion.

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Justice — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:19:56 -0000

Great ads. Don't recall this much clamor before of everyone trying to out Christmas the other. Great presentations, and the shinning cross over Huckabee's shoulder. What genius! Rudy and Hilary hit their points well but Hillary is way, way overspending. Oh, but wait, it's not her money! Somehow everyone missed the Illegal Alien thing. Not a good holiday spirit theme of punishing people (corporations) for doing something illegal. I don't blame the illegals. Dang, I really loved that cross. Made Huckabee look so religious, of course ignoring the many fee (tax) increases. Sound familiar? Everyone is so nice this time of year. Just as soon as the trees come down the big guns come out. This is going to be a wonderful entertainment season; and all in HD! Wow. Whatever your religion, or not, after seeing these ads, I say hold on tight to your money and your rights. Nothing scares me more than to hear someone say "Why, he's a good Christian man." I'm converting tomorrow.

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Another Pro-gunner — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:48:41 -0000

Wow! You've uncovered the secret that people have the capacity to lie! Look at the big brain on cermak! Now allow me to retort.

The point you missed (or carefully avoided) was the apparent double-standard. Rich gives grief when someone labels Blago a rat (a description not necessarily scientifically provable, but which one might be able to argue with all sorts of examples of ratlike behavior), then calls a former governor and Presidential candidate (there, does that sound better than Baptist Minister?) a liar (a description that may be provable, but for which there is no evidence, other than all the input from "experts" who know every decision ever made regarding campaign ads in which they had no part in producing).

Besides, what you think is pretty much irrelevant (sorry to burst your bubble). I was talking about Rich, who makes the rules for the blog. And, apparently, decides when and how they can be broken/bent.

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Snidely Whiplash — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:45:03 -0000

Photoshopping that pentagram i was priceless! I seem to be in the minority, but I think he came off as a regular person, and to me that worth some points. Huck, well ... man, everybody bends the truth from time to time, but when a clergyman does it, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth ... like huckeberry! :D

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cermak_rd — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:32:31 -0000

Baptist ministers, Catholic priests and Jewish rabbis can all be liars. There is nothing in their ordination ceremony that removes the potential to commit acts of moral turpitude.

And yes, I also think he is not being completely truthful (there, does that sound better than lying?) when he says he didn't know the cross was in the ad.

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Bruno_Behrend — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:22:57 -0000

Just in case some political consultant misses the opportunity...

The Hillary ad - reworked with credit card swipes in between each gift - should work out pretty well. Just end it with a shot of the name on the credit card at the end of the ad.

"Joe Taxpayer"

That is, of course, if she gets past the primaries.
____

What cynics we have all become. These ads tell us more about these people than all the negative/policy ads ever will.

I don't have to like or agree with them to realize that they all think they are doing their part.

Whether we like it or not, the quality of the 15-19 people running for President is a direct reflection on us.

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Another Pro-gunner — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:01:29 -0000

Hmmm. I guess calling a Baptist Minister a liar is more acceptable than calling Blago a rat. Maybe prefacing the slap with a little peck on the cheek was what made it OK.

"Hey, I like the guy, but I know he's a liar, although I have no real proof of that."

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Rich Miller — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:47:26 -0000

LOL. Thanks for the tip. Changed.

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winco — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:40:16 -0000

But whoever added it in: That's funny!

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winco — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:39:53 -0000

That Giuliani ad has been modified. That pentagram was added in by somebody. His campaign site has the original ads, and they don't have it. Also, at the end, he does say "merry Christmas," in the one on his website. It is right after he says he approved this message, which is also cut off the specimen above.

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Greg — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:39:28 -0000

PS, it looks like in the real version, it's a large golden ornament.

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The Century Club — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:39:05 -0000

Oh, and judging by what everyone is wearing, I like how we've now ceded the color red to the Republicans, even at Christmas time. I hope that means the democrats can were a nice pastel blue in the Easter (or springtime) ads.

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Greg — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:37:29 -0000

Rich,

That pentagram has got to be a user-edited spoof. Is your link correct?

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Levois — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:32:47 -0000

I think peope read too much into Huckabee's ad. The only ones whod complain are those who are against X-mas. Hillary's ad was a series of gifts for more entitlements. I would hope that doesn't translate well, but it will resonate with someone.

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The Century Club — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:26:44 -0000

I watched the ads first without sound, just to see the visuals, and Huckabee's cross couldn't be any more prominent if he had branded it on his own forehead.

On my computer Guliani's pentagram looks like it was added in later. Are these videos from the campaign?

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Lefty Lefty — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:22:17 -0000

That pentagram isn't even on the tree! It floats around as the camera moves. He must be going for the all-important druid/wiccan vote. Or maybe John Smith is reaching out from his planet (you get your own when you die a faithful Mormon, you know) to make Rudy look satanic.

And, as mentioned by Rod Sez, Hillary's doesn't make any sense at all. Or her father, "stinting" (Roger Morris' term in "Partners in Power") when it came to affection, probably ruined all her Christmases in Park Ridge by putting the contents of the present on the label.

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Just Sayin' — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:22:06 -0000

I guess the upshot is, if you're going to make a Christmas ad, make it a Christmas ad. Trying to fit in the politics just doesn't come off well.

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BehindTheScenes — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:14:07 -0000

If I lived in Iowa, I would imagine any/all of them would be preferable to what I have been bombarded with for the last umpteen weeks. I don't, so... The Huckabee ad is more likable as a Christmas ad than Rudy's. Rudy's seems to try to hard, and I did buy the explanation about the bookshelf. As for the other two, Obama's ad seemed more genuine than Hillary's. With all her vaunted experience, I expected more.