When will Colleen reveal to us that when Schock entered his Pinewood Derby car, his father helped him too much on that too?
Schock backdated a document for his father, back when he was a high school teen! Ooh! I bet Colleen could also find a couple of rumors about some of his high school dates too.
I heard them both this morning on the radio, and Colleen is really s t r e t c h i n g this too far.
That's all she got? She hired a poor bunch of aides if that's all she got!
wordslinger
· 1 year ago
Actually, VMan, he was an adult who had taken an oath when he took he job. You can look it up and draw you own conclusions of the action and the purpose it served.
I doubt if it will matter in the election, but it's not a small deal. I know a guy who got in over his head building spec houses who had his mother, a notary, backdate documents. When his Ponzi scheme crashed, he had to cop a plea to keep his mom out of the can.
VanillaMan
· 1 year ago
He was a Notary Public. It costs you $10. The legal age required is 18. His dad asked him to notarize these documents and he did. What kid is going to tell his dad no? No one made a dime out of this.
Colleen considers this a pivot point for her campaign? Pathetic!
wordslinger
· 1 year ago
He wasn't a "high school teen," he took an oath, and he deliberately falsified documents. It is what it is.
Rich Miller
· 1 year ago
VM, I believe Schock ran for the local school board a year after this youthful indiscretion.
Speaking At Will
· 1 year ago
Give me a break. This whole story is a non-story. When I was in the fifth grade I cheated on a social studies exam. Guess I should resign my candidacy for Jackson County Board.
jerry 101
· 1 year ago
This is a stupid little thing, and small time compared to incredibly stupid things like wanting to give nukes to Taiwan.
So, why was Schock's first impulse to lie?
This is a small thing. If he were convicted, then he'll get served with a small fine and a slap on the wrist.
So, why lie? If the DA investigates, cop a plea bargain, pay a fine, and move on. Deal with it like a grown up.
Instead, Schock chose to deal with it like a petulant child. Lie, blame others, and finally give up.
The act itself is not a big deal. It's the decision making in trying to cover it up that shows a lack of character.
Me Too
· 1 year ago
VM what happens when dad asks for another favor only bigger because Shock has more power/resources?
Is it ok because dad asked him and he cant say no to dad.
Brian G
· 1 year ago
Actually, his misconduct is more than "no big deal." Mr. Schock's duty was to function as a professional witness to the identity and date of the signatures in order to attest there was no fraud being perpetuated in the performance of a contract. What he has basically done is commit perjury. What he has done is no different than those accounting firms that gave AAA ratings to worthless mortgage back securities that were no better than junk bonds. That is Republican crony capitalism at its most sordid.
On last comment, I have developed an appreaciation for the job that Callahan's campaign manager has done. He was constructed a powerful narrative around Schock and his judgment ovet the summer, and I wonder if the campaign gave Lyons the evidence that we the public know, or if there is something more?
Just My Opinion
· 1 year ago
I've always said it's not the lie that will get ya, it's the cover up. Some of you believe this notary thing is no big deal. I am a notary and I can tell you that I have never done this, never considered doing it, and never would. Yes, I have been asked to notarize a document that was already signed and I told them to go find another notary that would do it for them, because there are all kinds of people like Aaron Schrock who would do it. That doesn't make it right. Shame on his father for asking such a thing. Our children learn what they live.
Also the fact that Schrock was willing to let Peoria pay for the extra police manpower for "W's" strictly 100% political trip to Peoria for Schrock's fundraiser is another HUGE issue for me. Now Schrock says he will reimburse Peoria $38K for their expenses. I'll believe it when Peoria posts a copy of the cancelled check from Schrock's campaign fund that has cleared the bank. For 25 years of age, I don't think this is a very good track record. Some of you may call this stuff minor. I call it frightening and is just a taste of bigger and worse things to come.
Pot calling kettle
· 1 year ago
I have always wondered how Schock became a millionaire (if he is)just a few years out of college. Since the main items on his resume are the political offices he has held, what role have those jobs played in his apparantly well-paying private employment. That is probably a much more interesting story...
Carl Nyberg
· 1 year ago
Schock got licensed by the state to conduct an official function. The only duty of this official function is to get the details right so others can rely on the details being right.
Schock committed fraud in an attempt to make money for his family.
Republicans seem to be saying this it's no big deal that a candidate for Congress committed fraud. The GOP argument is that it's no big deal that Schock committed fraud because he was so young.
But their real motivation is that they are willing to make excuses for illegal conduct (in this case in performance of official duties) b/c it's more important to have a vote in Congress to push their partisan agenda than to follow the law.
On one side you have people who aspire to follow the law. And on the other side are people who casually defend violating the law when it suits their partisan interests.
T.J.
· 1 year ago
Is there any actual argument for Callahan, or just against Schock?
Mountain Man
· 1 year ago
If Obama, who was 8 at the time, can be held accountable for Bill Ayers' wrongdoing, Aaron Schock should certainly be held accountable for his own mistakes when he was an adult
Just My Opinion
· 1 year ago
TJ, the fact that she is 30 years older than Schock and has worked in the area of agriculture all of her adult life is enough reason for me to vote for her. If the GOP had run someone who was not wet behind the ears and had some years on them, my opinion would be different. I'm putting politics aside here and voting for the mature individual. Callahan has worked specificially in an area that could use good representation in D.C. Schock, on the other hand, seems to think that we should be concerned only with the Illinois River from Henry to Beardstown. Here's a news flash for Aaron Schock. Go buy a bass boat and try to rid the Illinois River of those crazy Asian Carp fish. That would be a great full-time job for a kid.
anon
· 1 year ago
The Illinois Farm Bureau endorsed Schock.
anon
· 1 year ago
- - Is there any actual argument for Callahan, or just against Schock - -
im surprised by this myself, given the balance that is usually conducted on this site.
Cheswick
· 1 year ago
Whatever happens, there's a lesson here for notaries. You are responsible for what you notarize, despite what a family member, a friend, or a boss, says.
Pot calling kettle
· 1 year ago
TRhere is not much to say for either one. Neither candidate has the experience a voter should expect to see in a candidate for Congress. Schock's youth and enthusiasm have carried him this far, so, after he jumped into the primary, the Repubs decided to give him the Palin pass. On the Dem side, you had a basketball coach ?!? replaced by a farm reporter. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.
The remarkable thing to experience are the non-answers given by all the awed Schock supporters (R's & D's). They like his enthusiasm and that's about as deep as it gets. If he would stay in one place for a few years, he might be a respected Rep., but by then he will be running for Gov. And who can blame him? You've got to jump up when the number is called. This is essentially how the Obama campaign started; timing can be everything.
The reason these two are running for the seat is that the district was gerrymandered for an R. Schock, with his base in the most Dem part of the district was a shoe-in, and, in any case, no D wanted to waste their time trying for it.
wordslinger
· 1 year ago
There are members of the extended Callahan clan, doing great work in various fields, all over Illinois. If you're lucky enough to know any of them, you know they're the salt of the earth.
Callahan would be a breath of fresh air in Congress. Dixie Versace would have been great, too.
T.J.
· 1 year ago
If Callahan really is the salt of the Earth, her campaign ought to at least acknowledge that, instead of just flipping out over Schock.
honest abe
· 1 year ago
Those democrats are always stirring up the pot. Why don't they just stay home,collect public aid and let the Republicans run thing the right way.
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Schock backdated a document for his father, back when he was a high school teen! Ooh! I bet Colleen could also find a couple of rumors about some of his high school dates too.
I heard them both this morning on the radio, and Colleen is really s t r e t c h i n g this too far.
That's all she got? She hired a poor bunch of aides if that's all she got!
I doubt if it will matter in the election, but it's not a small deal. I know a guy who got in over his head building spec houses who had his mother, a notary, backdate documents. When his Ponzi scheme crashed, he had to cop a plea to keep his mom out of the can.
Colleen considers this a pivot point for her campaign? Pathetic!
So, why was Schock's first impulse to lie?
This is a small thing. If he were convicted, then he'll get served with a small fine and a slap on the wrist.
So, why lie? If the DA investigates, cop a plea bargain, pay a fine, and move on. Deal with it like a grown up.
Instead, Schock chose to deal with it like a petulant child. Lie, blame others, and finally give up.
The act itself is not a big deal. It's the decision making in trying to cover it up that shows a lack of character.
Is it ok because dad asked him and he cant say no to dad.
On last comment, I have developed an appreaciation for the job that Callahan's campaign manager has done. He was constructed a powerful narrative around Schock and his judgment ovet the summer, and I wonder if the campaign gave Lyons the evidence that we the public know, or if there is something more?
Also the fact that Schrock was willing to let Peoria pay for the extra police manpower for "W's" strictly 100% political trip to Peoria for Schrock's fundraiser is another HUGE issue for me. Now Schrock says he will reimburse Peoria $38K for their expenses. I'll believe it when Peoria posts a copy of the cancelled check from Schrock's campaign fund that has cleared the bank. For 25 years of age, I don't think this is a very good track record. Some of you may call this stuff minor. I call it frightening and is just a taste of bigger and worse things to come.
Schock committed fraud in an attempt to make money for his family.
Republicans seem to be saying this it's no big deal that a candidate for Congress committed fraud. The GOP argument is that it's no big deal that Schock committed fraud because he was so young.
But their real motivation is that they are willing to make excuses for illegal conduct (in this case in performance of official duties) b/c it's more important to have a vote in Congress to push their partisan agenda than to follow the law.
On one side you have people who aspire to follow the law. And on the other side are people who casually defend violating the law when it suits their partisan interests.
im surprised by this myself, given the balance that is usually conducted on this site.
The remarkable thing to experience are the non-answers given by all the awed Schock supporters (R's & D's). They like his enthusiasm and that's about as deep as it gets. If he would stay in one place for a few years, he might be a respected Rep., but by then he will be running for Gov. And who can blame him? You've got to jump up when the number is called. This is essentially how the Obama campaign started; timing can be everything.
The reason these two are running for the seat is that the district was gerrymandered for an R. Schock, with his base in the most Dem part of the district was a shoe-in, and, in any case, no D wanted to waste their time trying for it.
Callahan would be a breath of fresh air in Congress. Dixie Versace would have been great, too.