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First and foremost people should not be afraid to discuss change. Too many people forget that the voters would have to approve any changes and that a Constitutional convention is the only way for citizens to seek change NOT desired by the Sepaker and President since they can control the debate on Constitutional amendments in the GA.
Opponents of the Con-Con claim that the problems of the Constitution can be fixed by amending it, but it hasn't been amended to address the income tax issue.
Yes with vigor.===
Did you touch the screen really hard? :)
My vote will be "yes."
I am sure Blagoof's "no" vote will cause problems
I was able to convince many other to ignore Blagoofer and vote no too
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I tried to talk the soon-to-be wife into voting yes. I don't know if she did or not.
The State is broken. Time to start over.
Also, as a side note, I have found that most citizens have no idea how the system works. I explain that voters essentailly get three bites of the apple ((1)yes or no on con-con, (2)election of delegates, (3) yes or no on changes). Most of the folks that I talk to seem to think that if they vote yes, the pension system will be changed and they will not have another chance to voice their opinion. Are others finding this same incorrect information?
Too bad these comments do not represent a scientific sample.
Felt so strongly about it, it is the only vote I've cast this century.
Am I wrong? Was this language not supposed to be given to every voter?
In addition to gerrymandering and amendatory veto abuse, I'd like to add the judicial election system in Cook County as a reason to vote yes. It's absurd to think that anyone can have an informed opinion on all these judges.
I skipped voting on the unopposed judges and voted NO on retention except for those whose names amused me: Judge Edmund Ponce De Leon (I predict a long career for this eternal youngster), Judge Love (the Love Judge ) and Judge James Brown (say it loud, I'm a judge and I'm proud!).
And although I like Danny Davis, since his district was tailored just for him under gerrymandering, I voted for the Repub, Steve Miller (may he fly like an eagle to Washington).
A lot of things have changed since the last time the constitution was revamped. The state is the most corrupt in the nation. The General Assembly is worthless. For the money we pay them, the least they could do is update the official state language -- It is American, not English. Must have been a British idea.
History shows: Gun control works! Just ask Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Musolini & Pinochet.
WCJ/BCM - I couldn't agree with you more about the hype and how well-educated people are believing it. I almost caused a family feud when I said I voted for the con con while my retired professor in-law was livid about potentially losing his pension benefits. He wouldn't believe me that if you are drawing benefits now, you are pretty much locked in until death.
Yes, I voted 3 times.
The fact that Labor AND Business groups opposed it(I called this the "unholy alliance") combined with the fact that they said that the "politicians in Springfield" would run the convention showed me they were just trying every fear tactic in the book. These are the same groups that support the very same polticians in Springfield that apparently will "run" the convention.
That being said, I worry about the negative impact on public policy that could result if enough crazy populist ideas are adopted (like term limits or recall). Direct Democracy is dangerous.
Specifically, I want to see the Amendatory Veto repealed and something done about the reliance on property taxes; i.e. education funding. A graduated income tax would be good as well.
That is all I am really looking for.
I am a future state pension recipient also but that did not deter me. I had been leaning "yes" pretty much from the start, but Blago's dis-endorsement was what clinched it for me :)
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As a Future recipient of a State Pension.
I must say that there are to many things wrong with this state and the only way to fix it is change the rules it is ran by.
I voted YES as did my spouse who also fits the above descriptions.
Maybe we should try for another "gateway" type amendment that would allow voter initiative amendments to articles other than Article IV (Legislature)?
Bite US.
lol