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The Google is also a very useful tool.
Ricardo, was that a not so subtle endorsement of Duckworth by Obama yesterday?
It would've been cool if he had gone up to the memorial with McCain, but I am not faulting him for not doing it.
Even with allowing for a "home made" poll effect, I can see why JJJ would feel quite warm and fuzzy with those numbers.
By the way, the current New Yorker credits Jesse Jr. with providing Obama with a "Sister Souljah" moment with his "hot mike" remarks on Fox.
I'm curious, though, that his poll excludes Luis or any other Hispanic.
Who can help ME the most? A Sen. Jones could likely be a good fund raiser, given how close many perceive him to be to Obama.
I mean, if Tony R can parlay HIS contacts into big bucks, SURELY someone with Sen. Jones's perceived clout could.
Who else is as trustworthy a friend of the Gov, and could help him as much?
That assumes a completely rational mind.
That, of course, begs the questions as to whether the downstate vote really matters that much in a statewide election. My gut feeling is, sadly, no.
Of those listed, Duckworth likely has the best chance to appeal to downstate--disabled war veterans carry clout down here. I hear good things about Raoul, but he has no name recognition.
JJJ's rampant campaigning is becoming irritating. State your desire, put out a statement, do a couple of talk shows perhaps, and then stop it.
The President would be a great choice.
I thought LaHood tried to run for governor in '06 and never got his effort out of reverse. Nice guy, but not a prime timer --- especially with powerhouses like Bill Brady on the move.
Looks like Lawrence must still be waiting for his last check from Glenn :)
Once he makes it, he makes one person very, very happy and he aggravates like 10-15 others. Not a great deal.
Obama on the other hand should just play nice to everyone, then whomever Blago picks from that weird mind of his, Obama will start off on good terms with him / her.
I suppose it all depends on what people consider "downstate" to be. Is it everything outside the collar counties, everything south of I-80, south of Springfield, south of I-64? Seems most of the names mentioned in this discussion are all Chicago based, or close to it. Hardly anyone in the Deep South is very familiar with these folks. You are right: Tammy Duckworth may be the only name with statewide appeal. But then again, you say "Downstate" may not be a factor and you may be right about that.
Jackson is on the Appropriations Committee and has considerable seniority.
The Appropriations Committee is the most powerful committee in the House of Reps. They are the final gatekeepers of spending.
All but two of the appropriators more senior to Jackson are more than 15 years older. Chet Edwards was born in 1951; Patrick Kennedy was born in 1967.
Without discussing his personal problems in detail, Kennedy might get passed over for chair of the committee for reasons similar to Phil Crane getting passed over. Or Kennedy might lose an election, run for higher office or just not be in the House.
If Jackson stays in the House of Reps there's a good chance he'll be chair (or ranking member) of the House Appropriations Committee for a decade or more.
Frankly it is not in Illinois' interests to jeopardize Jackson's future as a Dan Rostenkowski rainmaker for Chicago and Illinois.
Jackson may not like that he's too valuable in the House to get promoted to the Senate. Too bad. He got on the Appropriations Committee at a young age. The die was cast.
He can give up his House seat and run for something else, but this is not a good outcome for Chicago or Illinois. People should discourage him from doing this.
When I say "downstate," I typically mean south of I-80. When I say "southern Illinois," I mean anything south of US Hwy 50. You, know--God's country. :)
Rich, looked on google for Emanuel and nothing new-you would know who REALLY wants the position and who they are backing-or looking at at least-just trying to follow ALL of this and keep up on it-it’s REALLY exciting and ALOT of CHANGE for Illinois!"
I think that kind of info is what you are suppose to pay the big bucks for when you SUBSCRIBE.
==That assumes a completely rational mind.
Actually it assumes one has the ability to enter madness and can come back from it.
Funny, the poll didn't mention any Latino candidates.
And being top guy on appropriations would not? I think House Apprs is THE place to be if you want a 3rd airport.
Does he mean someone who's principal purpose is to use the office as a stepping stone to the presidency? Wouldn't that be G-Rod himself?
If I pick from one of the Dems, all the others are going to be out gunning for me.
Let’s suppose I pick LaHood, they probably wont be as hot as if I pick one of them.
If I do pick a Dem, what can he/she do for me? Not much.
But if I pick LaHood, I get City Hall (remember LaHood is part of the Combine) and I get good will from the GOP in the 2010 General.
Now that I think of it, LaHood was the guy I most worried about in ’04. City Hall would have sold me out in a minute.
Obama is talking ecumenical. Bi-Partisan and all that.
And, I will get press and It’ll all be good. Well, maybe not the Chicago Reader. Wish LaHood would zip it on the Gay thing.
Another thing. If I pick a Dem, there probably won’t be much of a primary for the Senate and it’ll all in the Gov race. But, if I name LaHood, the Dem primary is going to be foot long for both the Gov and Senate.
Just what I need to sneak through.
If I do it, they’ll have to chalk me down for more than just a son-in-law.
You are correct!
I am not sure what purpose can be served by these polls and these speculations. Blagojevich will choose however he wishes, so these carryings-on are a waste of time. Who is best due to this or that support is truly bothersome when we consider who will make the choice. It is like watching a bunch of weight lifters one-up the other on how strong they are, while waiting for their wives in the fitting rooms at the local Dress Barn.
Now Bill, that's what a lot of people said to Pres.-elect Obama.
Even though Galena, Polo, DeKalb and Rock Falls are north of I-80, I still consider them disconnected from Chicago politics and therefore "downstate. West of IL 47 and south of I-80 (except for Will County) seems to be a good boundary for Chicagoland v. downstate.
That's different. Obama was running for office. J- cubed is more than welcome to try to get elected Senator. Junior is asking the Governor for an appointment. He hasn't been a very loyal friend and neither has his posse. He can forget it.
Bill - Jones was suppose to be the champ of education funding reform? Please tell us what he has done??
Fan of the Game: FYI -- So. IL starts with I-64 & not Hwy 50.
J-Cubed is a much better choice than Duckworth. He would carry Madison and St. Clair Co. -- both required to win.
But the term has been used so long that the illision has become reality. Even our POTUS-elect uses the term.
http://obama.senate.gov/press/080320-obama_stat...
That's for a big laugh, if anyone needs one.
If the Gov is devious enough to want to play games with this –and I certainly think he is—he will pick someone in a job that he also gets to fill. But I also think he cares what the world outside of IL thinks of him – Howard Dean, the other governors, etc.
I have always thought Jesse White was the leading contender and someone that would be considered a respectable caretaker by the national party. He has been elected to statewide office three times. His Tumblers program is a great success. And it took me all of 5 minutes to get a new drivers license this year.
The valuable appointment would be to Secretary of State. That’s a job that someone can probably keep in 2010.
I think he likely will play nice, but certainly doesn't need to endear himself to the pick. Methinks it should be the other way around, if anything.
Having said that, I don't think Jesse Jackson, Jr., has appeal in Cobden or Salem, Olive Branch or Mt. Carmel.
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Enough, Blago, just make a pick and get this over with!!!
I grew up in Crawford County, and we thought we were in southern Illinois (some of us sure talked like it!). I vote for using I-70 as the dividing line for southern IL. I would consider Chicagoland anything east of I-39 and north of I-80, and probably add Kankakee County into the mix.
As a Blago appointee to the US Senate? Gov. Ego would appoint someone who had the testicular virility to challenge him in the primary? Are you really a Chicago Insider? Not to dis EE ---I went to East St. Louis to meet him three days before the primary and he and his family are good people -- but I would bet against that one...
Along those lines, while I might tend to agree with the Atlantic headline about 1994, I find that the article gleefully ignores some important factors:
First, while Bill Clinton didn't have legislative experience in Washington, he DID have a ton of executive experience from many terms as both AG and Governor in Arkansas. If I remember correctly, he also made a well-known congressman, Leon Panetta, his Chief of Staff (although that could have been later than the very beginning...can't remember). Further, less than a handful of years in Washington, most of which were spent running for President, hardly qualifies one as "an experienced navigator of Congress."
Also different is that when Clinton took over, the economy was already on the rebound. He was able to ride a wave of prosperity that ended up lasting fifteen years or so, with a few difficult months following 9/11. Obama has an economy REALLY in the tank, and showing little signs of a rebound anytime soon. If it comes back in his first term, he gets credit, but if it doesn't, he's stuck with that, too.
Finally, Obama was able to run up his wins largely on the unpopularity of Bush in the swing states. If you look at all of the swing states, which had Bush's approval at 35% or lower, McCain won only Missouri. That's pretty telling. The Dems won't be able to run against that boogie man in 2010. It'll all be on them ... sink or swim, so to speak, and popular or not, they won't have The Messiah literally at the top of the ticket drawing voters to the polls this time.
Of course, this is all largely a phenomenon we've never experienced before. It'll be fun to watch - that's for sure.
Fan-- Since Hwy 50 pre-dates I-64, I believe you are right. I-64 is the first thought since it is more prominent. It is definitely not I-70 (sorry Quimby).
J-Cubed has to concern himself with Madison and St. Clair Counties since the majority of the Democratic votes are there. I grilled a friend about his Daddy issues. His doing well distancing himself. Should not be a problem.
I've yet to meet a veteran who can tolerate Duckworth. Maybe it's different there.
Just the facts.
When voters don't know the candidates, it's more a matter of finding something they like and/or respect. Of those listed, the only one with name recognition is Jackson, but I don't think he appeals to a lot of southern voters. Most don't know Duckworth, but if they learn she is a disabled veteran, they might be more likely to vote for her because of that.