DISQUS

OneMan · 1 year ago

Hey Governor...

Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock

OneMan · 1 year ago

Just for reference they don't re-set who Public Official A is for each of these do they?

lucid brazzi · 1 year ago

After all the years of feeding at the trough, all the $$ millions he made from doing so - and all the warnings that business as usual was not longer permitted (ie. George Ryan), Bill just could not help himself and push away from the table. "How many yachts do you need to water ski behind?"

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

I'm sure POA is the same as before.

OneMan · 1 year ago

Figured as much, well then it can't be our governor since he has told us it isn't him....

Downstate weed chewing hick · 1 year ago

If I were PO-A, whoever that is ;-), and thank goodness I am not, I would be rather concerned about my own personal liberty. For a guy that is dead set against relocation, it sure seems like he is headed for a new address.

LEFTY · 1 year ago

Is Co-Conspirator A different from Public Official A? Same person?

Clean as a Hounds Tooth · 1 year ago

Sounds like another up day for Rod Blagojevich.
The feds are getting closer and closer.

Judgment Day Is On The Way · 1 year ago

Ah, Thursday morning at the federal grand jury. Wonder what they will get to work on this afternoon...

Wacker Drive · 1 year ago

I think it's time to order the official Hanna Montana overnight luggage set.

How Ironic · 1 year ago

The gov's approval just shrank from 13% to 12% upon this announcement.

Signs · 1 year ago

Looks like Big Tony is spilling the Blagojevich beans.

Wumpus · 1 year ago

Good! No mention of Public offical "O"? lol

scoot · 1 year ago

The Sangamon GOP needs to dump Cellini..the writing has been on the wall for sometime now.

BandCamp · 1 year ago

I've said here before- can't wait to see the mug shot.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Now this is progress. From here they can start really putting the pieces together. Which include:

1) The monies that went from Bear Stearns to Kjellander to Rezko.

2) They can also get down to brass tacks on what happened on the Hospital board when it went from 15 members to 9- giving Rezko and Levine control.

This it is all going to fall like dominos from here. Maybe we cn expect a kjellander indictment soon?

Lucid Brazzi- you are right a lot of these guys were doing the same thing with Ryan in charge. They just refined it when POA got in and distilled it down farther and even got more brazen about it.

This puts alot of pressure on Kelly. It must feel like a migrane.

I don't mean to create a partisan discussion here but actually BO get's into the mix because he was the one who Rezko contacted to draw down the board size so that he and Levine could control it.

Also, I forget the guys name who was chair of the TRS board but his kid worked for Hurtgen at Bear. You can expect that to play out.

Fitzy is no joke. He's like Elliot Ness.

Lurker · 1 year ago

-- The gov’s approval just shrank from 13% to 12% upon this announcement. --

lol

Eubie · 1 year ago

I'll be it was sweet for Fitz to cap off the indictment with . . . "It was further part of the conspiracy that in or around the summer and fall of 2004,in an effort to conceal the conspiracy, CELLINI, Rezko and others discussed the possibility of removing the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois in an effort to stop any investigation into the co-conspirators and others."

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Eubie- Again the Kjellander connection. supposedly it was he that met with Rove, although there is rumour that others indicted in Operations Board Games and surrogates had conversations there too.

Ravenswood Right Winger · 1 year ago

1) Has Levine already been sentenced?
2) I would LOVE IT if Kjellander went down.
3) Keep talking Tony!
4) hey isn't Vrodlyak's trial starting soon?

wordslinger · 1 year ago

Never thought I'd see the day. Cellini was a legend in Springfield when I was kid there 24 years ago.

I think his indictment tarnishes the reputations of Thompson, Edgar and, further, Ryan, too. He was a big part of their networks; they're smart guys. Are we too believe they didn't know what was going on, or are we to understand he just started doing this stuff when Blago hit town?

Eubie · 1 year ago

BTW, Scoot, Cellini did just step down last week as Treasurer of the Sangamon Co GOP. I'd imagine he had a pretty good idea this was coming...

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

"in or around the summer and fall of 2004, in an effort to conceal the conspiracy, Cellini, Rezko and others discussed the possibility of removing the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois in an effort to stop any investigation into the co-conspirators and others, the indictment alleges."

Ten get's you Twenty this tees up some heavy hitters...Maybe even a former Cabinet Member...

Bookworm · 1 year ago

Anyone else still in the line (for indictments) ahead of Mr. and Mrs. Blago?

Macbeth · 1 year ago

So can someone explain where the vectors are here that lead to Blagojevich?

Is this zeroing in on Blagojevich?

Or is this just more of the mess that Blagojevich was (is) but one actor among many?

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

Macbeth, it's more like he's clearing his plate. First Burge, now Cellini. A new US Attorney General will be appointed soon. Time to get these pending indictments out of the way before he has to get approval all over again from somebody else who may not make it a priority.

Get the drift?

Justice · 1 year ago

I honestly felt that Cellini was smarter than getting caught with the likes of Levine and Rezko. Money, power, and greed are great persuaders. So are long prison terms. Wonder how involved Kjellander is? One can only imagine the sweat this brings to Blagojevich.

OneMan · 1 year ago

So whats the over/under now December 10th?

Cheswick · 1 year ago

Co-Conspirator A must be another TRS board member - former or present. Probably present. (Just thinking out loud.)

Macbeth, I don't know, except maybe to say he knew about it. I do wonder if he and his wife are now in negotiations with Fitz for some kind of deal whereby he and/or she will not be prosecuted.

Cassandra · 1 year ago

Well, at his age, Celliini probably doesn't want to take a chance on a long jail term--and long for a 70 something isn't that long. So perhaps he will be able to further enlighten us as to how much our Blago knew about TRS shenanigans.

One theme that runs through all these federal indictment stories is our Blago's desire to have a beyond hefty campaign chest. One wonders why. A comparatively young Democrat in a blue state following a long Republican regime and the indictment of a Republican governor. How much money did he think he needed to win against Judy Baar Topinka. Was she really that scary, especially against the background of the widely publicized Ryan trial. Or any other potential Republican opponent in 2006,

Any amazing lack of judgment--or of competent advisors.

hmm · 1 year ago

Note the references to Gov all now are framed as "for the benefit of Public Official A".

That is the extent of his mention.

Is this a hardening or softening of the USA's view of Gov's involvement?

Bookworm · 1 year ago

The indictment documents say it came from a February grand jury. What's taken so long?

Cheswick · 1 year ago

Although I can't imagine what exactly Blago would have to deal with. Stepping down? Would Fitz even care about that?

Hunterdon · 1 year ago

It appears Tony Rezko's meetings with federal prosecutors have proven fruitful indeed for all parties concerned. I love it when a plan comes together.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Fitzy has never lost a case....

BandCamp · 1 year ago

I'm beginning to think that POA is going to invoke the plausible deniability defense, and probably becuase it is true. His wall of money makers may be crooks, but is POA? I mean, look at the way he speaks in public sometimes. He's clueless.

I gots me some bad friends, but just cause they are involved in shady stuff doesn't mean I subscribe to similar behaviors.

POA may come out of this clean of charges. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Captain America · 1 year ago

The dominoes are beginning to fall. Governor Pinocchio should consider vacationing/seeking political asylum in Venezuela. I think Cellini knows where a lot of bodies are buried - but maybe he'll turn ot to be a sphinx like Mickey Segal.

Vote Quimby! · 1 year ago

==Time to get these pending indictments out of the way==
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel FINE!

Downstater · 1 year ago

Okay, I may be going out on alimb here.....

I believe the term "Public Official A" is a Red Herring in these indictments.

The only "cash gifts" given to a Blagojevich family member that were not a campaign donation or a realty fee, was the birthday cash given to little Amy Blagojevich.

I'm confident the "A" stands for Amy.
The Governor lives to fight another day!

Macbeth · 1 year ago

I get the drift. Many thanks, Rich. :)

Leave a light on George · 1 year ago

Lucid Brazzi cool name.

Indict/Impeach but please get rid of POA now! It is the change the voters deserve this fall.

wordslinger · 1 year ago

==And, in or around the summer and fall of 2004, in an effort to conceal the conspiracy, Cellini, Rezko and others discussed the possibility of removing the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois in an effort to stop any investigation into the co-conspirators and others, the indictment alleges.==

That was right smack dab in the middle of Fitz's special counsel investigation of the Plame Affair.

Libby first testified before the grand jury in March 2004. Rove in October 2004.

Also during this time, Ashcroft was laid up in the hospital and Alberto Gonzales was throwing his weight around the Justice Department as White House counsel. He'd be appointed attorney general in February 2005.

I always thought this particular revelation during the Rezko trial was a lot of empty boasting, but the U.S. Attorney has seen fit to include it. Wonder why?

If anyone in the White House was dumb enough to talk to these characters about removing a U.S. Attorney who was actively investigating members of the White House staff, then this could get a lot more interesting.

Toni H. · 1 year ago

Can anybody tell me why people say - "they won't indict him as long as he is governor" ? Why is that so special if he has broken the law???? I would think he either broke the law or he didn't (of course I believe he did) - that should not matter whether he is in or out of office.

Vote Quimby! · 1 year ago

Toni, since other Illinois governors fell from grace and out of office before the investigation wound up, it may be considered state tradition to indict our elected leaders only then. That may be why you are hearing people say that, but stay tuned to this website and we may get a surprise.

Toni H. · 1 year ago

You are most likely correct in your assumption. I pray the feds stay on course/task and get the job done, sooner rather than later.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===Can anybody tell me why people say===

"People" are wrong.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Wordslinger- there was also some really unusual stuff going on where people in Operation Board Games(indicted people) were (asking) to have letters written on their behalf effectively trying to get sway in hopes that they were not going to be indicted (effectively testimonials before the indictment?). This was part of the reason that when the hammer came down Fitzy didn't do the usual white collar criminal call "would you mind bringing your client down to Daley Plaza so we could take to him" but instead pulled up to their houses, pre-dawn, and ripped them out of bed.

anon24 · 1 year ago

====...hanna montana overnight luggage====

don't care who y'are, that's funny!

thank you, wacker drive, for that LOL

Leave a light on George · 1 year ago

Downstater, don't forget the $90K home inprovements that Rezko may have paid for as reported in the Sun-Times. Same kind of deal just got Sen. Ted Stevens convicted of multiple felonies.

312 · 1 year ago

Infamous political quotes...

"I am not a crook."

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

"The worst thing I can be accused of is asking my own wife to have sex in an inappropriate place."

"I am not Public Official A."

Hmmmmm....

Eubie · 1 year ago

To expound on comments of "Justice" - It IS pretty stunning that Cellini didn't have the instinct to stay away from these boobs and lay low after GHR went down. I guess the element we see again and again is - what? - the arrogance that allows these otherwise seemingly intelligent people to think they can get away with it. I mean, come on.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

So far in Operation Board Games, Fitzy is batting .1000. Of the 13 indicted:

9 Guilty Pleas (Kiefbaum, Glennon, Levine, Cari et al)

1 Conviction (Rezko)

3 yet to go to trial (Hurtgen,Cellini and Kelly)

Just Two More Indcitments To Go:

POA

Big Bob K

Soy Milk - Formerly Known As N · 1 year ago

wacker drive - funny stuff - good one

MOON · 1 year ago

BOOKWORM

I think the February/2008 date is the date this grand jury was put in place.

Capitol View · 1 year ago

smart, to go after a Republican mover and shaker before going after Blago once Election Day comes and goes -- makes the federal prosecutor look less political.

I remember testimony at the Rezko trial that Rezko called Cellini hundreds of time on his cell phone, but Cellini never once called Rezko. Once Cellini talks, I would not be offended if he is given a suspended prison sentence.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Eubie- dead right on. I mean after Ryan went down (Hurtgen was named in that indcitment) it's as though they were even more bold.

Legaleagle · 1 year ago

If/when Obama gets elected he will complete at least one of the conspiracy's objectives: he will replace Chicago USA Patrick Fitzgerald. Indictment of POA will have to come before January 20th; or it will be 'delayed'in Washington under the new Obama Attorney General.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Cap View- How do you know that Cellini never called Rezko? Don't you know these guys use pre-paid phones? As for "suspended sentence", not sure what that means but it sounds soft, so listen to the Levine tapes if you don't think Cellini and POA were in this deep.

anon13 · 1 year ago

It obvious that all State pensions can be taken away if a Governor is convicted, but how about a Federal Pension (like for a Senator)?

wordslinger · 1 year ago

LegalEagle, not a chance. Like him or not, the guy's too smart and come too far to risk a penny of political capital on these guys. You'll see.

It's nothing personal. Just business.

Downstater · 1 year ago

Leave a light on george,
You make an excellent point that unpaid home improvements took down Stevens. That's a tough one to pin on Amy....maybe.

"Listen honey, I just shut down Pontiac prison, so you won't have to go to any shabby places. If you just take the rap for me, Daddy gets to keep his pension."

The Doc · 1 year ago

===I gots me some bad friends, but just cause they are involved in shady stuff doesn’t mean I subscribe to similar behaviors.===

BandCamp, sounds like defense exhibit A!

How Ironic · 1 year ago

Obama wouldn't lose any sleep if the Gov gets put away. What would his rational for side lining Fitzgerald? It's not like Blago is the KingMaker that got Obama where he is today.

Judgment Day Is On The Way · 1 year ago

"BOOKWORM

I think the February/2008 date is the date this grand jury was put in place."

Exactly right. Also, don't be too surprised if Cellini isn't actively working to cut a deal, if one isn't already in place. He's certainly not stupid (he's no martyr), and he's been watching the progression of the domino's falling.

If you're going down, better to be riding the domino going down than having it land on top of you. You've got a little better leverage. Cellini will be smarter than Tony.

"Fast Eddie" has got to be getting terribly concerned.

anon · 1 year ago

EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty, just ask former Representative Santiago. If anyone knows the difference between right and wrong, it IS Bill Cellini.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Anon- LOL

It certainly sounds like from the Levine/Cellini tape that he knows right from wrong...

GOP'er · 1 year ago

It's about time.

Not to pat myself on the back, but I think I predicted on here awhile back that another Republican would likely be indicted before Blago.

I did think Individual K (Kjellander) would go the same time as his bud Individual A. So I missed that part.

The hits keep on coming for the Illinois GOP.

Snidely Whiplash · 1 year ago

Man, I just saw a big flying across the sky!

Dan S, a Voter and Cubs Fan · 1 year ago

Wow, never thought Cellini would go down. They've been after him for years.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Well the Cellini camp is going to make a big case out of his him being innocent, the important thing to remember is, now, Rezko is cooperating. He will statements will back up the levine/Cellini tape.

This is bad for Kjellander as well as he gave Rezko a check ofr nearly $500K that came from Bear Stearns and was filtered through various companies. Also, it menas that Big Bob K is going to have to explain his statements to the feds that that paymnet was "for a loan". If that means lying to Federal Investigators he's in big trouble.

The hubris of these guys is amazing. It's all so clear what they were up to.

anon · 1 year ago

gofglenview

Levine proved that he is BFF with the US attorney during the last trial. It is Haloween tomorrow, so I guess that it is appropiate to say that Levine on tape is the same as being dressed in a Sarah Palin costume. Both are phonies!!!

Irish · 1 year ago

Could it also be thqat beyond clearing his plate Fitz is also setting up the thought process that this is the first in a line of indictments he is working towards. Which would make it harder for a new President to interrupt that line without raising eyebrows as to what his motives were. Which might allow the US Attorney to stay on and continue his work. Knid of a job preservation thing?

Next · 1 year ago

So, we have an indictment. It took nearly a year for Rezko's trial and sentencing. There will be no Blago indictment before the Cellini trial is done.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Next- With Rezko having gone down (and now singing) all bets are "off". It's a flippers paradise right now. If Kelly were smart he'd flip- like now. They are going to get him and they already have him on the IRS stuff- cold.

Unless he wants to spend the rest of his life in jail he will turn. Then Cellini is toast for sure. If it goes how I see it, Kjellander will be the next to be indicted.

So to summarize:

Kelly- Flips
Cellini- Holds out for trial because he's old and arrogant
Kjellander- just goes down no deal no nothing.
Blago is indicted with or w/o Cellini.

The only bets that are "on" right now are bets on how far this goes on "the whole removal of US- Attorney" deal. There could be some interesting developments there.

Rich Miller · 1 year ago

===There will be no Blago indictment before the Cellini trial is done.===

Statutes of limitations will begin expiring next year. So, if there are gonna be indictments, they will come long before the Cellini trial starts.

Touchdown Rejus · 1 year ago

People who are very worried right now

Nick Hurtgen
Chris Kelly
Peter Fox
Tommy Thompson
Big Bob $
Patti B

People who are to stupid to be worried

Gov. Rod

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

TD Rejus-

Interesting List. Do you say Tommy B/C of the whole "removal of US Attorney" thing?

Touchdown Rejus · 1 year ago

the Hurtgen Bear connection and bond deals in Wisc.

Arthur Andersen · 1 year ago

Looks like TD Rej is off meds for two days in a row.

word, AA's opinion about why that reference to removing Fitz is in there is because it "got personal" if you will.

Touchdown Rejus · 1 year ago

connect the dots...the blago bear bond deal kickback to Big Bob...all those guys are connected to each other, if they start flipping people these guys have been indicted, served supeonas, or are being investigated for deals..to much smoke to have no fire

Sal Says · 1 year ago

Slightly off topic; but someone mentioned Thompson.

Wasn't former gov. / now 'Statesman' Thompson the gov when HE lost the Federal trial regarding political hiring that's become known as Rutan?

What a crew.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

TD Rejus- The only way Fox gets dragged into this is if Cellini goes down(b/c of Knight e/a tollway etc). By that time things will be too far gone. Glenview thinks Fox goes clear. Though the same scam was running in WI I think things are too far down stream to drag that in...so by your measure Tommy goes clear. The only thing Tommy might get dragged in on is the 2004/5 get rid of Fitzy thing. It's still unclear why he left the Admin. Wasn't b/c of the lack flu vaccine.

Secret Square · 1 year ago

Snidely, did you mean to say you just saw a "pig" flying across the sky?

Fortunato · 1 year ago

Rich, I commend you for recognizing that Fitz will not long be US Atty in Chicago if Obama wins. Any indictments not announced in the next few weeks will be left hanging until the Public Integrity Section of the Dept. of Justice of the next president oks it and a new US Atty, appointed and confirmed with the approval of both Illinois Senators, decides to go foward with it. If Obama wins, it will be at least 6 months for all those things to be in place. If you recall, Fitzgerald's nomination was announced in Mid-May 2001 and his confirmation came just days or weeks before 9-11. And he had FBI clearance and had passed backround checks BEFORE he was nominated. If the next president choses someone who is not presently an AUSA, the process could take longer. The other USAs in Illinois (Central and Southern Dist.s) were not even nominated until Aug. and Sept. 2001.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Sal- TD Rejus is talking about the WI Gov Thompson and I think you are refering to IL Gov Thompson...Both mind you connected to all these forementioned players

Thinking · 1 year ago

We will know that they are getting close when either Blago or Cellini get an attorney from outside of Winston and Strawn. As long as W&S represent both, we know that Cellini isn't cooperating. Watch for a new firm to pop up and you know Cellini has flipped.

Say WHAT? · 1 year ago

312 at 2:27 You forgot "I have nothing to fear but the truth"

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

Rich-

When the combine "void/Vacuum" is created by Fitzy, Glenview would like to nominate A. Andersen and Wordslinger to fill in for Cellini and Bob K, respectfully.

soccermom · 1 year ago

==Statutes of limitations will begin expiring next year. So, if there are gonna be indictments, they will come long before the Cellini trial starts.

If the Feds can show a continuing conspiracy to cover up, the statute of limitations might not apply.

bluedog demo · 1 year ago

No way do we need Con-Con in this state. Let the politicians sort it all out and correct the corruption. Yeah right. As " Big Bill " so aptly illustrates, the powers that be are happy playing the game by the rules they have set. No outsiders ( common citizenry ) are welcome !

Big Mama T · 1 year ago

Rod just said that this indictment proves he can work with both parties, so it's been an "up" day form him.

ivoted4judy · 1 year ago

I believe that Co Conspirator A is C. Kelly. And Rich the statute of limitatins can be extended if the conspiracy is ongoing and continuing, so much for the the limits.. G Rod has a long hot winter and summer coming.

quincy · 1 year ago

Big Bill is going down like Big George and same more REPUBLICAN are when this is over. And Hot Rod will drive away doing OK BY me.

Shelbyville · 1 year ago

It hasn't been a good week for Julie Cellini, has it?

Judy · 1 year ago

Kjellander and Cellini have been joined at the hip for years. As Republican National Committeeman and a close friend of Carl Rove, Kjellander's indictment, now inevitable, becomes national news. Illinois may have a chance to clean up, thanks to Patrick Fitzgerald. We need a parade for him + sainthood.

Been There · 1 year ago

GofGlenview, your statement about Kelly ===Unless he wants to spend the rest of his life in jail he will turn. ===I think is way off base. His whole indictment is about his tax problems. They will throw the book at him and I'm no lawyer, but I don't think the sentencing guidelines for tax evasion will put Kelly behind bars for anywhere near the rest of his life. They can't use his other problems and connection to Rod to pile on.

Arthur Andersen · 1 year ago

GofG, bite me.

NIEVA · 1 year ago

Janice Cellini put me to work under Edgar. Always seemed like nice folks.

walter sobchak · 1 year ago

On a human note: don't you think Dan Webb is tired of defending the indefensible? I'm sure that Winston & Strawn will at least be paid this time, but it must be wearing to find yourself in the Illinois muck once again. I also wonder at the potential conflicts of representing both Cellini and Blago at the same time.

Disgusted · 1 year ago

Wacker Drive: Hilarious. I'm crying.

Give Me A Break · 1 year ago

Just wanted to be Number 100.

Disgusted · 1 year ago

I wonder when Bill bought his hovel in Brunai? Was it before or after Stewie spilled the beans?
Is Brunai a non-extradition country?

Joe the plumber · 1 year ago

This is NOT rocket science, former Senator Fitzgerald cut the deal with Patrick Fitzgerald. I appoint you US Senator, you give me Cellni. Took Fitzgerald a while, but being the good yes man that he is, he followed through.

Holdingontomywallet · 1 year ago

Rod needs to fuel up a plane and fly to another country with a beach. He can take his money and drink margaritas all day. Seriously, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did leave the country. Beats a 10 x 10 cell. Poof, one day he may be gone, never to return.

IrishPirate · 1 year ago

Even if Blago fled the Feds would find him using stealth hair spray detecting technology.

You can run, but the hair can't hide.

Ima Lurker · 1 year ago

I think POA may use 'Political Puffery' as a defense. Then things will be right as rain.

Anonymous · 1 year ago

My sense is that Public Official A = Blagojevich and that co-schemer A is Jon Bauman, the Executive Director of the Teachers Retirement System. Persons need to understand that Cellini has had a least a 20-25 year relationship with TRS. This was very clearly to control where the investments were made and ensure that Cellini and his friends were well taken care of.

Cellini was good friends with former TRS Director Bob Daniels, who was also former head of the Illinois Education Association (IEA). For years Daniels was on the TRS Board of directors and effectively ran the investment committee on behalf of Cellini and friends. At some point in the 1990's, Daniels resigned from the board and got himself appointed Executive Director of TRS. It was about this same time that Bauman was brought in, because Daniels owed a huge personal favor to Cellini involving some "family matters".

Daniels stayed at TRS about 5 or 6 years and resigned. At the time of his departure the FBI was at the agency to examine some behavior, but it is apparently unrelated to the current activities.

After Daniels departure, an "outsider" was brought in to be the Executive Director. He lasted 2 or 3 years and was later ousted, largely rumor had because he wouldn't play along with some of this non-sense that is going on now.

Bauman was later named Executive Director and has been in the position since.

This attitude of "you take care of me and I will take care of you" has been pervasive at TRS regarding Cellini, the investment committee throughout the Thompson, Edgar and Ryan administrations. What changed was that Blago and the boys decided to clearly quantify what level of campaign contributions were needed to continue playing the game and those that didn't pay the price were out of luck. It wasn't going to be enough anymore to just hold a fundraiser, you needed to payup. And obviously the appointment of Fitzgerald as US Attorney opened the door for review of these activities.

So who is the loser? Taxpayers and our public school teachers. Leadership at the IEA had to know about these schemes, especially considering Daniels was the former IEA leader. Nothing changed after he left, so IEA in my opinion turned a blind eye as they should have been watching out for their members pensions.

Wumpus · 1 year ago

Daniel Webb? Are there only 3 atty's practicing in IL?

Celliniweenie · 1 year ago

Rich:
Could you have your next slave/intern do a report on Dan Webb's various defense quotes...I think he is recycling. Clients are entitled fresh material

And FYI
Most now believe some or all of that cash from the Oct '02 funded went right into the room addition/remodeling account

Pot Stirrer · 1 year ago

RE: Indicting the Governor, he can be indicted in office. On the other hand, getting it to court could be an issue.
Ex. Spitzer, NY, Fletcher, KY, Mecham, AZ, Taft, OH are examples that you can find with a simple Google search, though I admittedly don't have all the details.

One judge in KY ruled that the Governor could not be tried while in office. That would probably be contingent on the severity of the charges, but just try running after indictment while still in office. Could be a challenge, but be fun to watch for all of us sideliners. Maybe we will get to see that. :-)

Bookworm · 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification on the grand jury date.

Based on the experience of a relative who once sat on a county-level grand jury, I believe they usually last about six months and meet at least once a week. Do federal grand juries have different rules?

Anon · 1 year ago

What does the last 3 sentences of the Trib article mean?

wordslinger · 1 year ago

==When the combine "void/Vacuum" is created by Fitzy, Glenview would like to nominate A. Andersen and Wordslinger to fill in for Cellini and Bob K, respectfully.==

Golfo, I think there's an insult in there, but for the life of me I can't figure why or what it might be. So for now, I'll deliver a conditional "Bite Me," that I reserve the right to withdraw or expand upon clarification.

If there are Combine openings, I'd like to interview soon as the holidays are upon us and you can always use the extra cash. And I mean cash only.

Captain Flume · 1 year ago

Looks like a Cellini trumps a Beard, newswise anyway.

Little Egypt · 1 year ago

If I were Patrick Fitzgerald, I would immediately go before a judge and ask Cellini to turn over his passport. His daughter lives out of the country and he is known to visit often. He is a HUGE flight risk. Is no one considering this?

Link · 1 year ago

I knew Jon Bauman growing up in Champaign and Chris Kelly as well. Jon's father (Floyd) would not be a happy camper right now but from what I recall, Jon's ethics were sorely misplaced back when he was a young Teen at C-U Model...

And as for Chris, well that is a similar story but in a different vein...

steve schnorf · 1 year ago

I am almost blinded by all the secret rays reflecting off the tinfoil hats on this site.

One question, though. What's wrong with "conspiring" to get rid of a USA? Don't political parties conspire every day to get rid of people? It may be unseemly, but why is it illegal?

anon · 1 year ago

Will there be a trickle down effect of subpeona's/indictments through out state agencies? Remember Rezko's list of appointee's. Many were strategically placed and recommended by Cellini. Combining agencies, such as the profitable ones: gaming/ lottery/horse racing, were not for budgetry reasons but for control.

A Citizen · 1 year ago

- steve schnorf -
Maybe it has something to do with obstruction of justice? It may not be so much what was done as Why it was done.

Smitty Irving · 1 year ago

Rich - Fortunato said:

"Rich, I commend you for recognizing that Fitz will not long be US Atty in Chicago if Obama wins." What is that about? Both Obama and McCain are on tape with the Chicago Tribune editorial board saying they will keep Fitzgerald. Is there something afoot?

PMG · 1 year ago

Anon 7:09 - If you don't know what you are talking about, don't.

Link - Thanks for the 1970 character analysis. We should all be judged on our ethics as 14 year olds. You are a moron.

Judgment Day Is On The Way · 1 year ago

"Based on the experience of a relative who once sat on a county-level grand jury, I believe they usually last about six months and meet at least once a week. Do federal grand juries have different rules?"

Federal grand jury is an 18 months term, 1 day per week (9:30 to 4:30; 1 hour for lunch), can be extended beyond the 18 month term. Extensions only occur upon agreement by a majority of the grand jury members, and the grand jury has a clear-cut picture of the cases they will be handling in the extension period.

Pay sucks. Pay mileage, no parking furnished or paid for. However, the second floor cafeteria (for breakfast) is really pretty good. Lunch depends.

Smiling Faces · 1 year ago

What about all the influence Bill Cellini used at the Illinois Tollway,
for the I-355 expansion.
+Jack Hartman
+Bill Cellini
+Brian McPartlin
+Jeff Dailey
= $$$$$$$$$$$$ for Rod Blagojevich.

Bookworm · 1 year ago

Smitty: Not to take the words out of Rich's mouth, but even if Obama or McCain keep Fitz, he would still be expected to resign at the end of Bush's term (as all US Attys do) and would have to wait for his reappointment to come through, which would take some time, probably several months at least.

Bookworm · 1 year ago

Also bear in mind that there will be a new U.S. Attorney General in DC, who would have to give Fitz the OK to proceed with any prosecution. If there is a delay in confirming a new Attorney General (remember Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood?) that will delay the process.

Jon Bauman · 1 year ago

Any time you anonymous folks or "links" (probably those tiny little breakfast weenies) want to debate the facts of any of these matters, feel free to stop by my office at TRS.

I can't make any sustantive comments about what transpired today, or what I read in goofy blog posts, but two things need to be said right now.

Anon. 7:09, you have the wrong Co-Schemer A. Read the document again and you may figure it out.

Links, Keep my dad out of your cheap shots. Jerk.

Beowulf · 1 year ago

Don't get me wrong. I respect Patrick Fitzgerald and his "Untouchables" but we all know where this Cellini thing is going. The newspaper headlines and federal prosecutors will say that he could face up to a zillion years in federal prison but the reality is that this won't ever happen. He will go before a federal judge who will slap his hand and give him a minimal sentence of 6 months to 3 years at a federal white collar minimum security prison with a college dormitory setting. He will be out before the black kid who went to prison because he stole a purse with $12 and some loose change in it.
Reality bites but that is how it works. Never steal or commit fraud over a couple thousand dollars. Do it for millions of dollars so it pays for you to go sit in jail and watch television during your minimal sentence. I personally know a guy (my ex-boss) who only did 3 years for fraud although in excess of $70 million dollars vanished. Illinois taxpayers got to pick up most of the tab. He had told me before he got caught that crime does pay. His girl friend (corporate secretary) also did less than 3 years. They were both already out of jail and living happily ever after before the civil litigants had even made their way through the court system. Crime pays and pays nicely.

Little Egypt · 1 year ago

Steve Schnorf, the last I knew, conspiracy was against the law. It doesn't make any difference what you are conspiring about. Your comment tells me you have been in politics WAY too long. Perhaps it's time for you to be measured for your tinfoil hat because by wearing one, it allows us to see things more clearly - but only if you remove the rose-colored glasses.

GofGlenview · 1 year ago

W-slinger: this is an opportunity of a lifetime. You see Cellini and Kjellander just over played thier hand by just a little. If instead of doubling down on Blago if they had just stopped with Ryan they would have gotten out clean (save for a little tarnish on their reputations but who can't spare that) now they are looking at the big house and i mean for a long time. Same goes for Hurtgen. When your named in on Governor's indictment you don't go looking for angles to play in the next administration.

Still, a 20 year run in the combine, as long as you know when to pull the rip cord, can be long satisfying siphon on the taxpayer.

Look at Fox he's played it perfectly.

618er · 1 year ago

Bookworm,
My dad got called for a fed grand jury a couple of years ago in Benton. 1 tuesday a month for 12 months.