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Whew. Here I thought it was about incredible corruption. Glad we got that cleared up. We could have had quite a misunderstanding.
This is not about taxes, it's about his corruption.
Heck, I'd listen.
They are pretty much giving him free access to a microphone and aren't making any attempt call him on his B.S.
But, you could say that the root of the conflict with Madigan is about his refusal to raise taxes. Madigan's plan the whole time was to force rod to raise taxes before lisa took office. That led to much of the budget conflicts, healthcare stuff, familycare stuff, etc.
Crazy like a Fox the Guv.
If his impeachment is unconstitutional, a violation of his 6th Amendment rights, why is he not in federal court? Of course, he says, the GA is against him, but is the entire U.S. justice system rigged against him, too? He can't get a fair hearing in the United States of America? He just said he doesn't know if they're going into court.
I was making breakfast for my kids so didn't catch the context, but did he say earlier he wants to call Ted Kennedy and John McCain to his Senate trial as well?
He's wrapping himself in the Obama people. I told you they shouldn't have dealt with him on this Senate seat!
Can one be a paranoid megalomaniacal sociopath?
Oh look...a kitty!
If you aren't going to fight impeachment, why haven't you resigned?
Why didn't you submit a list of witnesses to the Senate, rather than just assume they would not approve the request?
How can this be about passing an income tax when there appear to be far more votes to impeach you than it takes to pass an income tax over a gubernatorial veto?
Don and Roma absolutely blew this interview
Now he's onto golden glove boxing and TR.
Rod: "we're going to do something a little bit later today..."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALe...
OH no...this is like Frank Capra movies! The good guy against the establishment...
no no, but this may be the crazy guy against the establishement... it might turn into that!
With this guy, though, just drop a quarter in him and let him go. He's his own worst enemy.
Forget the State, does he have no care for what his constant hubritic presence in the media is doing to his children?
As I drove my son to school this morning I happened to be listening to this radio show which forced him to do so also. I thought it odd that he actually seemed to be paying attention.
As he left my car, he turned to me and said, that guy is worse than Jafar. I had to search my memory banks to remember that Jafar is the snake from the movie Aladin.
So I have a new name for this double talking snake and that is Jafar.
Go Rod, this is the Guv we know. I am glad to see him back to his old self. He beat the President, US Senate, Sec of State, AG, and the U.S. Attorney with the Burris fiasco. Not exactly the message you send to a sociopath that he is finished.
Hang on because a sociopath with nothing to lose is about to go head to head with a lot of democrats who have stayed quiet for 6 year, who have everything to lose. If I supported Rod, I have to be a little worried about what he is going to do in the next 14 days.
Is that code for a $25,000 donation?
Yeah 'A hole in the head' 1959
Politics in Illinois is an inside game more so than almost any other institution in our history. After Rod is gone it will back to the good old days for all of us.
Tax eaters, special interests, lobbyists, family dynasties, 1.
Citizens, 0.
Go ahead and do what you gotta do, Senators, but if you feel good about it you're just as bad, if not worse, than Rod.
Go ahead and talk about corruption, bloggers, even though there is not even an indictment, let alone any proof. Just continue to slander Rod. It will give all of you someone to blame for all of our state's problems for years and years to come as we all make a living off the citizens and the same sick system just keeps churning along.
I don't blame Blago for choosing them, I blame Don and Roma for whimping out.
Bill do you really think Rod would be here today if his father-in-law was an accountant instead of an alderman and ward boss?
Bill, you're right, and the best way for the Guv to redeem himself is to start telling us all everything he knows about his time as member in good standing of our very sick system.
He could do a lot to change things now by turning on all of those Democrats and Republicans alike who've turned their backs on him.
Like a mob guy who flips... it would be redemption of the Guv's soul worthy of a Frank Capra movie.
How do you know you are unpopular?
Answer:
When Governor Blago keeps throwing you under the bus to make himself look better.
Who are you?
Todd Stroger of course.
Will we being paying more in taxes?
I missed the end, did he really say:
Rod: “we’re going to do something a little bit later today…â€
Don't turn my words, Bill. First off, no, my rant has nothing to do with my thinking this governor should be impeached. Did I say 'impeach the horse's behind cause he has annoyed me'? NO I did not. In fact I did not mention the word impeach or 'toss the dog' out at all in my posting. I said "I" could not listen to him. I, me, Bill, have no desire to hear more from the guy. I said "he' has made my family's life a nightmare all year--and he has. Do I really care if average citizens take pity on me? Not a twit. What I do care about is the way this gov rolls on and on about the wonderful leader he is/has tried to be and if it was not for those 'evil' other people ______ (fill in the blank) when in reality this state is in a terrible mess. No, what I said , Bill, was I could not continue to listen to Rod droan on. I was not attempting to get a statewide sympathy ear, nor the 'poor me' angle. I was talking as to why I could no longer listen to the jackin' fallin' outta his jaw. The state GA does not need my opinion of the operations of agencies under to governor to impeach him. They have a whole list of their own
I gotta admit -- this is quite shrewd.
The middle finger is right -- and it's the citizens of Illinois he's giving it to. We're the enablers, and we get to watch him stuff the cash in the bag and head for the hills (where more opportunity awaits).
It's despicable.
Now with his trial, he doesn't like the rules, he will not obey them, will not follow them. He will go to court and try to block the Senate trial, but I do not know how the Supremes can stop it since he did not even file a response, witness list etc.
One more thing Governor, take repsonsibility for your OWN actions, don't put the blame on everyone else.
I shut it off after 10 minutes, about the time Don and Roma didn't call the governor out about "not being able to call witnesses." I felt my blood pressure going up...
If the governor left the state on a medical leave, would the impeachment continue?
I'm sold, what was I thinking about not backing this poor martyr.
Bite us.
Amen!
If you don't believe me, this process is going to get messy because Madigan and now Cullerton are going to have to kick the Governor out without getting dirty when they have been wallering in the same mud hole with him for 5+ years. Madigan can play the "I am for the people" crap all he wants but he supported the Guv twice and has profitted considerably from the Governor's antics and policies.
Now they get what that deserve and finally have to face the sociopathy THEY created!
Character is what you do when nobody is watching.
This is our first impeachment and Senate trial of a governor. So we are discovering that even an incompetent governor retains enough credibility to fight against being removed from office. Impeachment is an old process, which predates the power of a media. So what we are seeing is how a modern governor uses this media power against the process. Using the media is how he got into office, so he is showing his skill as he is impeached and removed from office. Should we consider reforming the impeachment process, it would be a good idea to consider how the media has impacted impeachments like Blagojevich’s. We need to address how an impeached official publically implodes and threatens our political culture while imploding, and take measures to protect us from possible damage.
Governor Blagojevich is a politician, and he demonstrates a great deal of political skill in crafting a virtual world that includes the listener. He has enough cognitive skills to still present another version of the situation he is facing, and enough political skill to sell it. He is good enough at it to have won two gubernatorial elections. He demonstrated this skill very well. He has convinced himself, and knows how to convince us. While he didn’t extract himself from the trap he is in, he definitely tested it’s strength – and it held.
The problem a man like Blagojevich faces is the facts. After seven years of stretching and abusing the facts, he has lost too much credibility with voters to have his version of events believed. Illinoisans were willing to look around this shortcoming if the facts also indicated that he was not doing harm. With his arrest, we were no longer willing to ignore his propensity to stretch the facts. Once he was exposed as corrupted, he was abandoned. It isn’t the truth that is entrapping him, it is the facts. As a politician, this is a classic blind spot.
I enjoyed his presentation on why he is being impeached and removed. It is a story of clever half-truths skillfully told in order to present him as irreplaceable. We learn a lot when we listen to cornered politicians. Blagojevich taught us today that he cannot think like the rest of us and that he cannot function as our governor. Even after listening to his version of events, in which he is an innocent victim, one recognizes that he is an utter failure as a state leader, and too incompetent to be in office.
I enjoyed every emotional minute. What a nightmare this man is!
Thank you Illinois Democrats for nominating and re-nominating, electing and re-electing a man so corrupted, hateful and self-serving. Thanks for supporting his administration during these past seven years. Thank you for sinking the Illinois budget into a historic black hole. You will need years to mitigate the damage your political greed and stupidity has created.
We depended on you to offer the best candidates, and you failed us - twice - in spectacular fashion. Don't expect much future support from the millions you have shortchanged, and now want to overtax.
And who have now resorted to the child-like and ineffective retort: Everybody does it! I just got caught!
If I'm not mistaken, we prevailed over the Japanese by dropping atomic bombs on two of their cities. I wonder if Blagojevich revealed a bit too much with this statement.
Go ahead have your mock trial and get rid of the duly elected governor. It is constitutional (Illinois) and probably would withstand a challenge. But don't try to act like it is fair.
Eat it.
lol
I don't recall anyone claiming that impeachment is fair. It is the right thing to do, but I don't think anyone believes it is fair.
Every election has a loser. That's not fair either. When you run for public office that is the deal - you might lose, and that would be unfair to all the work and money you put into it.
Impeachment is another political process. Blagojevich will lose his office in a special constitutional process designed to throw out failures. Rod Blagojevich has been a failure for over five years.
It isn't fair, but it is needed.
Yes, I and about 60% of all voters rejected a referendum that would have thrown out the Constitution and started over. As I said at the time, there are a lot of great things about the constitution and there are some things that need work.
Allowing the General Assembly to use the impeachment process as a unpopularity contest is probably one of the clauses that could use some work.
Here is just one example of what I mean.
Most of the alleged "abuse of power" took place during Rod's first term. Subsequently, he was overwhelmingly re-elected. No one said boo! In fact, the Almighty Speaker and the other constitutionals except Lisa, Cullerton, Hannig, most other Dem legislators and probably David Ellis all endorsed him. Didn't they know about the abuse then or wasn't it abuse until the grandstanding USA pulled Rod out of his crib in handcuffs?
Do you think that this would even be taking place if not for that dubious arrest?
We've both been around a long time. We both know exactly what is going on. I'll eat it but I don't have to like it and I won't gloat about it.
Where was 'fair' when the people were wanting a chance to recall on a ballot and the Senate told us 'up yours'? If citizens had been given the chance to recall our governor , it very well likely would be the citizens voting to remove the governor and the GA standing back and letting them do it. I believe the spin was citizens are not responsible enough to have a chance at recall, but now we get a new spin 'impeachment process by our elected reps who speak for us is kangaroo court, sham..' Yeah, whatever.
Then you haven't been awake. Everybody involved is claiming it is fair. Cullerton, Madigan, Curry and her whole committee and all other members of the House are claiming it is fair. Even Capt.Fax is claiming it is fair because they supposedly are using the same rules as the senate did for Clinton.
I disagree and a federal court might also disagree if they decide to go that route.
I am not saying its not legal or even that I want Rod to stay in office. In fact, I am looking forward to a nice, big tax increase ASAP after he is gone.
I just don't think it is fair.
Bill, the Watergate breakin happened during Nixon's first term, yet Nixon was re-elected by a far greater majority than anything Blagojevich saw and Nixon was still ran out of town. And if memory serves me correctly Topinka was telling anyone who would pay attention that Blagojevich had legal and ethical problems. If I remember right, Topinka kept stating that no one ever referred to her as "Individual A" in a federal investigation.