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I'd love to do some fumigating, too, but there are some technical problems, Mike.
If we use the broad brush the speaker is proposing then he should have to step down as the Chairmen of the Democratic Party! He was co-chair of Blagojevich's reelection campaign so he is tainted also! Ok I am just as over the top as he is now but in fact we would be asking people like Director Arnold at idph to step down after he was widely praised for his work on the swine flu epedemic.
I would point out to Gov. Quinn and the Speaker that support of this bill would cause the African-American community to pull there support from Both the Governor and Attorney General Madigan and support anyone but them. Blagojevich may have been corrupt but he appointed more qualified African-Americans then any Governor in the history of Illinois. The Speaker is trying to punish employees under former Governor Ryan because of corruption that occured mainly in the Secretary of States office!
I will be keeping a close eye on this bill to see if any of the black or latino caucus memebers vote for it, if they do i would hope their comumunities will express their displeasure at the ballot box in the next election.
Or reverse it. W follows GHWB and Pelosi seeks to wipe out all of GHWB's appointees.
Constitutional meltdown, sure, but only for five minutes. The Supremes would fall over laughing before knocking them on their heads for such a stunt.
Quinn has a built-in organization from every county in the state ready to help him win re-election. He may not be able to compete against Mike, Lisa, and the IL Dem Partys money, but he does have an army waiting for direction.
Problem is that no one is reaching out to them.
Also, how many people were hired as a favor to a legislator? Are they gonna vote to fire their people?
This further Illinois reputation as a JOKE.
On April 28, 2009, the Illinois Reform Commission issued its 100-day Report, calling for ethics reform in six key areas. The report can be found at www.reformillinoisnow.org, the same place where you added your voice to the work of the Illinois Reform Commission.
Will you give the same call for reform to your legislators? WE SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT REFORM AS OUTLINED BY THE ILLINOIS REFORM COMMISSION THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.As a citizen interested in reform, won't you join us in calling for that reform now? The nation is watching Illinois to determine how we will respond to the corruption and scandal that has been the state's legacy.
Please call your legislator, as urged by the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune.
See Give your Illinois legislators an earful on ethics reform - Chicago Sun-Times, May 6, 2008 and
Give lawmakers your ultimatum. And do it now. - Chicago Tribune, May 3, 2009.
PLEASE CALL OR E-MAIL THE LEADERSHIP OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TELL THEM --- "We support major reform being enacted now, as called for by the Illinois Reform Commission. It can't wait!"
House Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago): mmadigan@hds.ilga.gov, 300 Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, telephone 217-782-5350.
House Minority Leader Tom Cross (R-Oswego): tom@tomcross.com, 316 Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, telephone 217-782-1331.
Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago): john@senatorcullerton.com, 327 Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, telephone 217-782-2728.
Senate Minority Leader Christine Radogno (R-Lemont): cradogno@sbcglobal.net, 309-A Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, telephone 217-782-9407.
You can also find your legislators at the Illinois State Board of Elections website.
WATCH OUR VIDEO ON YOU TUBE AND BE INSPIRED! BE ACTIVE! THE TIME FOR REFORM IS NOW! Sincerely, Illinois Reform Commission Patrick Collins, Chair
At the federal ALL political appointees offer resignations once there is a change at the top. That should have been done here.
Unless you're a scientist, psychologist, computer programmer or other position that requires a real special technical expertise you probably came in with someone's assistance. And if you didn't and you're in a highly specialized technical job you probably have absolutely nothing to worry about. Submit your vitae and you'll be rehired (lab people, etc.)
However, I'm not including many, many in the corrections system in that technical definition (my cousin was a GOP committeeman for years in his small town when he got his guard gig—when the GOP Chairman had a sign outside his barber shop advertising correction's applications). It doesn't mean you aren't a valuable employee, it just means you got your job with help and it wasn't protected by the union. You knew it when you took it--or you should have or maybe you shouldn't have gotten it.
This helps Gov. Quinn make a hard decision he wouldn't otherwise have had the political stomach to make. As others have said here, he has had everyone and their brother whispering in his ear not to let go of "my" person, even if they only know them through a casual golf game or as an FOJ. That's what Blago's people told their cousins, brothers, bartender friends, waitresses, etc. to do—get a sponsor and Quinn can't axe you. Meantime, these same people he's not supposed to fire are out there telling everyone they're now with Lisa. I bet in the last hour I've had already had eight to ten SPSAs tell me they'll be fine--and these people came from the main downstate players: ex DNR director Flood, Hoffman, ex-leg affairs director Handley and ex deputy chief of staff Julie Curry. One girlfriend told me she may even get a promotion after all is said and done. If that's the case there will only be about ten or twelve people let go 'cause these guys had a ton of hires between them.
Ultimately, though, it makes it easy for Quinn to do what he's probably wanted to do--get rid of some directors, commission members and high paid, high level staff who he had no ability to vet for himself, but who have called in every favor in the world to keep their positions.
Finally, from a PR standpoint, outside Springfield there are probably 11,997,000 Illinoisans today who don't care whether Mike Madigan is playing chess, checkers or chicken.
The state should be so lucky!
PS - you should make valuable stuff like that subscriber only!
Since we're using YouTube, that's tough to do. But I should check into other options, I suppose. This is all just an experiment right now.
There are more important things than money. Plus I'm broke now anyways.
Probably because they're gonna have to beg a few certain somebodies to keep their jobs.
The family of the deceased is settling a wrongful death suit against the state for thousands of dollars. This incident can be attributed to blunders at many levels. But senior management staff appointed by Blago should be investigated. Walker, Rick Bard and Jay Merchant should all be held accountable.
This only one incident that has happened under this administration. It is about time people ask some hard questions before more tragedies occur.
Well I would imagine the list of "please welcome so and so" will be long tomorrow as Quinn finally really starts purging. They never really say who got the axe just who got the duties.
Yes, it's the private sector; but everyone knows around here that businesses/interest groups who rely on lobbyists take seriously "suggestions" from the Speaker, the Senate President and the Governor's office when it comes to the kind of people they want showing up on their doorsteps.
There are quite a few who got their jobs only because Fawell, Monk or Harris told someone to hire them to "transition" them out of state government. They then used these folks to button-hole cash for Friends of Ryan and for Rod's “record†fundraising efforts. Quite a few, of course, now make Kjellander-league commissions off bond sales or by helping construction contractors land road and building contracts or by sleepwalking a host of other lucrative ventures through the G.A. I'm not saying there are a ton; but even a couple of high profile ones would be a clear communique.
If you really want to squeeze reforms and send a message, I would think Cullerton, Madigan and Quinn would insist that change take place in that arena as well. And for anyone who worries they won't be getting golf or drinks paid for anymore, remember: Someone will be more than happy to use their expense account on your behalf again!
You want a new era in government and to send reverberations through the establishment? Try that one on for size, too.
No, he could not, because: 20% had Obama's people calling on their behalf, 20% had a legislator calling on their behalf, 20% had their county chairmen calling on their behalf, 20% had key lobbyists calling on their behalf and 20% just begged to be left alone.
This gives Quinn the option of telling them all he had no choice and "he'll get back to them." I don't think he or Stermer wanted to really pull the trigger (SEE how the IDOT fiasco was handled).
Now they'll have a little breathing room--and some cover.
If an appointed person was then hired to a career position under the previous two Govs--is that person out of a job too?
Thanks to whoever can answer that one. Much appreciated...
I like you. I think you want to do the right thing. You and you staff seem confused at times and have had a rough start. Before you agree to fire thousands of employees and throw the word "fumigate" around please keep in mind that many out of those 3000 have advised your young staff and have been working hard to make you and them look good. Stop lumping everybody into the same group and please think before you speak. Thanks.
You have to think that if the Senate President can hire one of Blagojevich's top policy people as his own policy person that Quinn can keep a few lower tier folks who are doing their jobs without complaint.
This hurts so much. Blago was bad enough but this is too much to bear. I had high hopes for Quinn and I always thoughy Madigan was a competent legislative leader. Now they have both declared war on me.
I am going to have a few beers tonight. I don't expect most people to respect state workers (just look at the comments on the Cap Fax!), but this guilt-by-association concept is just too, too much.
He's putting 3,000 employees (a large number of which are career professionals; not hacks) and their families through hell to get to what, a few hundred of Blago's enablers? How much will this experiment cost the state at a time when we have neither the resources or funds to deal with it.
Governor Quinn has the ability to get rid of most of the enablers DIRECTLY, why put everybody else through it? Give him a "hit" list or god forbid, sit down and discuss what you want. Hand him a flyswatter and see if he uses it.
We wonder why the "best & brightest" don't wind up in leadership positions in state government. Its BS like this that keeps the good ones from wanting to move up--why put up with the hassle? First 6 years of Blago: non raises, term renewal "games", etc. If you really are a capable and competent leader, what is the rationale to move up after this?
The Speaker's reactionary measures have the potential to keep the career "A" players on the sidelines and out of the decision making process at a time when we need them the most to help fix a lot of problems; ones that need long-term solutions.
It creates a situation where in the future where only opportunistic hacks take leadership spots and "role the dice" with our state's future.
After Blago got hauled away I hoped for an end to gamesmanship for the sake of gamesmanship. I thought Blago was the source of all the problems, now I have my doubts...
Hey hey, ho ho, John Filan has to go.
After today it is;
Hey hey, ho ho, Dadigan says he will go.
Let's be realistic. This is a blatant political move by MM to make PQ look foolish. And it is working because it doesn't take much effort. Quinn is all talk and no show.
Madigan just swung the reform club and hit Quinn right between the eyes. When his eyes stop rolling around and the animated birds circling his head stop chirping, Quinn's going to figure out his least bad course of action is to go along with it.
In the wake of the Ryan and Blago scandals, The Great Reformer, Pat Collins (the public says... who?), set his sights directly on Madigan, talking about relative arcania like legislative leader terms and discharging bills from committee (the public says.... huh?).
To the public, the big problems were former governors Ryan and Blago, back to back. You want reform? MJM asks a couple simple questions:
Did you know 3,000 George Ryan and Blago appointees are still running a big part of your government, spending your tax dollars and collecting salaries and benefits? Don't you think we should throw them all out and start fresh?
The public says... yes!
What's Quinn going to do? Fight for 3,000 people he doesn't know? How many time bombs are there in that lot? Explain that he's still working on it? Not good enough.
The only thing keeping this from being a grand slam for Madigan, up north anyway, is Drew Peterson got arrested tonight for killing Wife #3. Without that, MJMs proposal is the top news all day Friday. With Drew's arrest, it might just get a mention.
But he sure got a very targeted market's attention.
Sorry, what were we talking about again?
LOL. Yeah, I'm sure a Republican could win that seat with 500 unemployed state workers going door to door. You'd be better off going after one of his vulnerable targets.
Also, from what I'm getting, this bill will probably be changed soon. I don't think it'll be as massive as it currently appears. Everybody, calm down.
de millions of of being a PUBLIC SERVANT. Talk about a criminal enterprise! My boss makes a small fraction of a fortune like that. Lisa had my vote til now! Now it ALL makes sense!
I stepped down from 4 year term appointment into PSA for exactly this reason -- I was tired of my ability to continue my 20+ year career as a public servant being jeopardized by political whims that had nothing to do with merit.
What is truly unfortunate is that -- once again -- hard working state employees (yes, there are many out there) and their families are being put through the emotional wringer until (hoping?) sanity and common sense prevail.
This is yet another blow to the morale of devoted public servants and adds unnecessary uncertainty for their staff and the programs they oversee. Not only does it discourage people from wanting to move into upper management positions, it probably also gives young people pause about working in state government.
I seriously doubt that.
-- it probably also gives young people pause about working in state government.--
In this economy? You've got to be kidding.
It sure did get everyone's attention though, didn't it?
This needs to be done. There's a hundred little kingdoms out there with a lot of operators doing their own thing, telling Quinn's people one thing and doing another. It doesn't matter who does it. The madness needs to end, though.